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Big_Bird



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 5:19 am    Post subject: The Genital Mutilation Thread Reply with quote

In simple language, for its intended audience:

Genital Mutilation is terrible. Even when it happens to women who are not white. In fact, it is just as terrible when it happens to women who are not white, as it is when it happens to women who are. I do not agree to white or brown people performing it on either white or brown women. I do not agree that it is a good thing, whether you are christian, muslim or animist.

It's really not on, in my opinion. I would like to see it stamped out forever.

How about you dear posters?
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daskalos



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Contemptible, vile, in all forms, on all peoples, in any time or place, even, dare I say, male genital mutilation, also known as circumcision.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:19 pm    Post subject: Re: The Genital Mutilation Thread Reply with quote

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Rapacious Mr. Batstove



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:22 pm    Post subject: Re: The Genital Mutilation Thread Reply with quote

Big_Bird wrote:
I would like to see it stamped out forever.


Yes, yes it's a terrible thing.

When you say 'stamped out' I can help but look to your avatar in fear and loathing - those huge dangerous black shod heels and that small powerless baby at your feet.
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The Bobster



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm against it. I try to be kind to genitalia whenever I'm around them ...

Just curious, did you think someone would come around and try to defend doing lifelong damage to this part of a person's body?

Um, you ARE talking about FEMALE genital mutilation, right? Cuz there was another thread a while ago about circumcision, and that's probably a completely different issue, not what you were talkin' about ... right?

Anyway, the clitoris is a beautiful, wonderful part of existence for both women and the men who love them. Don't do bad things to it unless you wanna make The Bobster angry with you. I mean that. I'll go all Chuck Norris on your ass if you even try it.


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Tiger Beer



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:09 am    Post subject: Re: The Genital Mutilation Thread Reply with quote

Big_Bird wrote:
In simple language, for its intended audience:

Genital Mutilation is terrible. Even when it happens to women who are not white. In fact, it is just as terrible when it happens to women who are not white, as it is when it happens to women who are. I do not agree to white or brown people performing it on either white or brown women. I do not agree that it is a good thing, whether you are christian, muslim or animist.

It's really not on, in my opinion. I would like to see it stamped out forever.

How about you dear posters?


I only know of it in Northern Africa and parts of the Middle East.

Which white women does it happen to that you are referring to?
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Big_Bird



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:10 am    Post subject: Re: The Genital Mutilation Thread Reply with quote

Tiger Beer wrote:
Big_Bird wrote:
In simple language, for its intended audience:

Genital Mutilation is terrible. Even when it happens to women who are not white. In fact, it is just as terrible when it happens to women who are not white, as it is when it happens to women who are. I do not agree to white or brown people performing it on either white or brown women. I do not agree that it is a good thing, whether you are christian, muslim or animist.

It's really not on, in my opinion. I would like to see it stamped out forever.

How about you dear posters?


I only know of it in Northern Africa and parts of the Middle East.


It also happens in Southern Africa.

He who appears to have missed the context in which these threads were concieved wrote:
Which white women does it happen to that you are referring to?


Hopefully none of them. But I'd like to express my sincere belief that it must feel just as terrible for one of these brown ethnicky looking ladies, as it would for some nice white lady from the bridge club in Harrow.
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Big_Bird



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Bobster wrote:
Just curious, did you think someone would come around and try to defend doing lifelong damage to this part of a person's body?



Ah Bobster. You've got your thinking hat on. Not like some of the flora and fauna that inhabit this forum.. You're helping me to make a certain point....
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Pligganease



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Bird wrote:
The Bobster wrote:
Just curious, did you think someone would come around and try to defend doing lifelong damage to this part of a person's body?



Ah Bobster. You've got your thinking hat on. Not like some of the flora and fauna that inhabit this forum.. You're helping me to make a certain point....


I did the same thing on the "Gay Bashing" thread. We're pointing out the obvious to someone that is obviously pointing out the obvious.

She's trying to make a point, I guess.
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Hollywoodaction



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Bobster wrote:
I'm against it. I try to be kind to genitalia whenever I'm around them ...

Just curious, did you think someone would come around and try to defend doing lifelong damage to this part of a person's body?

Um, you ARE talking about FEMALE genital mutilation, right? Cuz there was another thread a while ago about circumcision, and that's probably a completely different issue, not what you were talkin' about ... right?

Anyway, the clitoris is a beautiful, wondeful part of existence for both women and the men who love them. Don't do bad things to it unless you wanna make The Bobster angry with you. I mean that. I'll go all Chuck Norris on your ass if you even try it.


Embarassed


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yawarakaijin



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Obviously female and male circumcision is different. I doubt ANYONE on here would try to justify female circumcision. Male circumcision obviously does not involve the removal of the head of the *beep* (ouch) which is what removing the clitoris amounts to.

Motivation behind the two procedures are also as different as night and day as far as I know. Doesn't female circumcision aim to deny the woman the pleasures of sex so that she will not stray from her man? Male circumcision may have its religious underpinnings but in my mind it doesn't deny the man anything.

Yes I have heard it's more pleasurable with the foreskin still intact but I can't complain with how it feels without the foreskin. Wink
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contrarian



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A frilly dilly is a circumcision done with pinking shears.

Very Happy
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Tiger Beer



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:28 am    Post subject: Re: The Genital Mutilation Thread Reply with quote

Big_Bird wrote:
Tiger Beer wrote:
Big_Bird wrote:
In simple language, for its intended audience:

Genital Mutilation is terrible. Even when it happens to women who are not white. In fact, it is just as terrible when it happens to women who are not white, as it is when it happens to women who are. I do not agree to white or brown people performing it on either white or brown women. I do not agree that it is a good thing, whether you are christian, muslim or animist.

It's really not on, in my opinion. I would like to see it stamped out forever.

How about you dear posters?


I only know of it in Northern Africa and parts of the Middle East.


It also happens in Southern Africa.

He who appears to have missed the context in which these threads were concieved wrote:
Which white women does it happen to that you are referring to?


Hopefully none of them. But I'd like to express my sincere belief that it must feel just as terrible for one of these brown ethnicky looking ladies, as it would for some nice white lady from the bridge club in Harrow.


What is the context of the conception of these threads?

What does white women have to do with female genital mutilation in Africa? It could almost be taken as you are referring to white people being too good for that, or black people being evil to do that.. but that isn't quite the political persona you pull off.. so I don't get it.

Regardless, its not a black/white/brown thing.. its a cultural thing. It's also a sensitive cultural thing.

Whether white people are holier-than-thou about it with this 'we'd never do that!' type of attitute.. to dictate that all those 'savages' that they are wrong, and we're right is a very sensitive area to tread.

All this thread really does is show that regardless of white people are liberal or conservative, they all agree that they are culturally enlightened and superior, and questionable disagreeable practices that aren't approved by white people, are always disagreeable to downright shockingly disturbing.

Of course, myself being white, I'd agree with the western white standpoint on this issue.. but thats the way it goes.. I'm one of them/us.
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Big_Bird



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:50 am    Post subject: Re: The Genital Mutilation Thread Reply with quote

Tiger Beer wrote:
Big_Bird wrote:
Tiger Beer wrote:
Big_Bird wrote:
In simple language, for its intended audience:

Genital Mutilation is terrible. Even when it happens to women who are not white. In fact, it is just as terrible when it happens to women who are not white, as it is when it happens to women who are. I do not agree to white or brown people performing it on either white or brown women. I do not agree that it is a good thing, whether you are christian, muslim or animist.

It's really not on, in my opinion. I would like to see it stamped out forever.

How about you dear posters?


I only know of it in Northern Africa and parts of the Middle East.


It also happens in Southern Africa.

He who appears to have missed the context in which these threads were concieved wrote:
Which white women does it happen to that you are referring to?


Hopefully none of them. But I'd like to express my sincere belief that it must feel just as terrible for one of these brown ethnicky looking ladies, as it would for some nice white lady from the bridge club in Harrow.


What is the context of the conception of these threads?

What does white women have to do with female genital mutilation in Africa? It could almost be taken as you are referring to white people being too good for that, or black people being evil to do that.. but that isn't quite the political persona you pull off.. so I don't get it.

Regardless, its not a black/white/brown thing.. its a cultural thing. It's also a sensitive cultural thing.

Whether white people are holier-than-thou about it with this 'we'd never do that!' type of attitute.. to dictate that all those 'savages' that they are wrong, and we're right is a very sensitive area to tread.

All this thread really does is show that regardless of white people are liberal or conservative, they all agree that they are culturally enlightened and superior, and questionable disagreeable practices that aren't approved by white people, are always disagreeable to downright shockingly disturbing.

Of course, myself being white, I'd agree with the western white standpoint on this issue.. but thats the way it goes.. I'm one of them/us.


That's an interesting perspective Tiger Beer. I actually know a women from Oman who was quite shocked on reading the newspapers while she was studying in Australia. She couldn't understand the fuss about it.
From her expression, I thought she was going to deny it went on or something like that, but she said "I've had that done and it's good." I thought "Eeeek!" but smiled politely, and tried to think about blue skies and cherry blossoms! Smile It had never occurred to her that it might be considered quite unpleasant.
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The Bobster



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hollywoodaction wrote:
In other words: Worship the clit!

I've yet to find anything more worthy of my devotion.
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