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He who lives in a glass house shouldn't throw stones!
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Lucas



Joined: 11 Sep 2012

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:58 pm    Post subject: He who lives in a glass house shouldn't throw stones! Reply with quote

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2012/10/116_121824.html

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The errors included a Kuwaiti schoolbook stating that Koreans speak Chinese and an Argentinian text describing Korea as having a tropical climate under which malaria is endemic. On the naming of the East Sea, most books use the "Sea of Japan." Another common inclusion is the simultaneous use of both the �East Sea� and �Sea of Japan� in other books. Instances of using only the �East Sea� were very rare.
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JustinC



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not surprising at all considering in many countries the books are written by the dean's cousin!
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tardisrider



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JustinC wrote:
Not surprising at all considering in many countries the books are written by the dean's cousin!


Like where?
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xhaktmtjdnf



Joined: 20 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What if the house is made of reinforced glass and the stones are pop rocks? Would it be okay? Sure Korea may have issues with the text books of other countries, but it's not unusually for countries to not always like how they are represented in other countries. What exactly is the issue you have with Korean objections to these text books. Why do you think they are hypocritical or lacking merit it's hard to tell what your objections are from the initial post.
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Lucas



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was given a book to look over and 'proof read' for mistakes, by an old co-teacher.

I opened the book and said it looked very professional for a proof copy, then she pointed out that it had gone to print and had been distributed to school's across Korea...... Shocked

I gave up looking for mistakes after the first chapter - I gave it to my 6th grade afterschool class (elem).

We made a competition out of it - which team could find the most mistakes! Goes to show how pathetic/lazy/dis-organized some of these publishers are! - or I'm just an amazing teacher! Razz

I think the winning team found about 15!

This wasn't a big book btw!

It's a shame the K-times doesn�t do an in-depth, exposo on why some school's/districts keep using certain rubbish books when there are much better one's (although by no means perfect) one's out there to replace them.......

cough cough, back hand payment's maybe? Twisted Evil
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Lucas



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[/quote]What if the house is made of reinforced glass and the stones are pop rocks? Would it be okay?[/quote]

No, because it would make a mess on the floor when they threw them and someone would have to clean it up!


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Sure Korea may have issues with the text books of other countries, but it's not unusually for countries to not always like how they are represented in other countries. What exactly is the issue you have with Korean objections to these text books. Why do you think they are hypocritical or lacking merit it's hard to tell what your objections are from the initial post.
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGRZBa4cKWA

^ Watch this and it will help you understand. Surprised
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JustinC



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tardisrider wrote:
JustinC wrote:
Not surprising at all considering in many countries the books are written by the dean's cousin!


Like where?


China, Uganda, Chad, Turkmenistan, Malaysia, Bolivia, Equatorial Guinea, Saudi Arabia and Moldova. Razz
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Patrick Bateman



Joined: 21 Apr 2009
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xhaktmtjdnf wrote:
What if the house is made of reinforced glass and the stones are pop rocks? Would it be okay? Sure Korea may have issues with the text books of other countries, but it's not unusually for countries to not always like how they are represented in other countries. What exactly is the issue you have with Korean objections to these text books. Why do you think they are hypocritical or lacking merit it's hard to tell what your objections are from the initial post.


I honestly don't know how prevalent it is, but I've never heard of a government having an organization to scan through other country's textbooks for mistakes.

Given the meaning of the maxim, I'm fairly certain the OP intended to express a frustration of Korea analyzing the texts of other countries without looking more critically at its own.

I wonder if labeling the "Sea of Japan" is considered a mistake or is the article's author just including it since it's of interest.
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm surprised to see big public banners on the streets in my town announcing the 18th Conference of Major NE Pacific Rim Cities being hosted here, with "East Sea / Japan Sea" printed large.
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orosee



Joined: 07 Mar 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xhaktmtjdnf wrote:
What if the house is made of reinforced glass and the stones are pop rocks? Would it be okay? Sure Korea may have issues with the text books of other countries, but it's not unusually for countries to not always like how they are represented in other countries. What exactly is the issue you have with Korean objections to these text books. Why do you think they are hypocritical or lacking merit it's hard to tell what your objections are from the initial post.


I gave this a second of thought and I think an exception in case of a fire (which is blocking the exit) would be reasonable, as long as you don't throw the stone(s) straight up.

Also, if your ex-wife is going to take it from you.

Or (of course) to illustrate the point why you shouldn't.

Or as an episode of Mythbusters*.

And it's completely safe as long as you avoid hitting the glass walls, for example if you live in a very large glass house.

Just passing the last 44 minutes before I can go home...



*At the end of the episode, the Mythbusters would demonstrate why those who live in glass houses should not detonate 100 kg of C4, or collide it with a supersonic steel block on a rocket sled. I'd watch that episode if they make it.
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orosee



Joined: 07 Mar 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Korea misrepresented in foriegn schoolbooks


I guess they weren't looking at "foriegn" [sic] or Korean English textbooks?
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Stan Rogers



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He who lives in a stone house shouldn't throw glasses.
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yodanole



Joined: 02 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some factual errors about Korea are only factual errors in Korea. Elsewhere they are just facts.
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Yaya



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still get asked whether I'm from South or North Korea by Europeans. Many people in the world are far more stupid than most here think.
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orosee



Joined: 07 Mar 2008
Location: Hannam-dong, Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yaya wrote:
I still get asked whether I'm from South or North Korea by Europeans. Many people in the world are far more stupid than most here think.


But that seems to be a fair question, if the only information available before was "I'm from/working/living in Korea".

Maybe these people re not stupid but don't like to jump to (obvious) conclusions?

Maybe those people who don't ask are not even aware that there are two Koreas?

Now if you want to call someone stupid, how about the person in our German HQ who labeled a document package "Seoul, North Korea"? Geographically challenged, a more polite way of saying it.
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