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Halcyon Chimera
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 Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 3:25 pm Post subject: Knife carry laws |
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I am looking to depart in July for South Korea. I am curious as to the current knife carrying laws in South Korea. I am planning on taking a Benchmade 2550 Mini Reflect Auto pocket knife.
These are its stats:Overall Length: 7.32"
Blade Length: 3.16"
So, yea or nay on the carry? Either way, what is the current law? (I've researched it but came up with varying explanations and laws) |
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Halcyon Chimera
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| Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Anyone at all... Hate to inconvenience you and all, but replies would be beneficial to me... |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 4:51 pm Post subject: Re: Knife carry laws |
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| Halcyon Chimera wrote: |
I am looking to depart in July for South Korea. I am curious as to the current knife carrying laws in South Korea. I am planning on taking a Benchmade 2550 Mini Reflect Auto pocket knife.
These are its stats:Overall Length: 7.32"
Blade Length: 3.16"
So, yea or nay on the carry? Either way, what is the current law? (I've researched it but came up with varying explanations and laws) |
| Halcyon Chimera wrote: |
| Anyone at all... Hate to inconvenience you and all, but replies would be beneficial to me... |
You didn't like the replies on your other thread?
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=216313
Coming into Korea and declare it at customs and they will seize it.
Get caught with it and you will lose it (plus all the other trouble that will ensue as a result).
You do NOT have the right to carry a weapon (of any sort). This is NOT the US of A. Your right to carry ends at the US border (along with all your other constitutionally guaranteed "rights").
Regardless of what uses you had for it at home the best suggestion I can make to you is to leave it at home.
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FDNY
Joined: 27 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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| I believe you can carry anything with a blade under 13cm (about 5") I have a Gerber Rex Applegate/Fairburn Combat Folder that I take camping. I have never had any problems. But I don't know why you would want to carry one on you. That is just asking for trouble. Cut somebody in a fight and you will be looking at HUGE compensation, prison time and deportation. |
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tideout
Joined: 12 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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| No need to bring it. End of story. |
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strange_brew
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| Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Going to go stab some local, young, toughs? |
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Steelrails
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| Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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Korea is a "guidelines" country. If you're an old man with a beard, possibly with family, who looks "outdoorsy" and you have a utility knife, they might not care. The second the people hear that you came to Korea for hiking and fishing they'll wish you well.
A 20-something year old single male with an attitude carrying a knife that looks like a weapon? Trouble. |
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Swampfox10mm
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| Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 7:08 pm Post subject: Re: Knife carry laws |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
You didn't like the replies on your other thread?
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=216313
You do NOT have the right to carry a weapon (of any sort). This is NOT the US of A. Your right to carry ends at the US border (along with all your other constitutionally guaranteed "rights").
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Ttompatz, I don't know if you're an American-hating Brit or one of those apologist Americans who looks down on his own country while acting all superior... whatever the reason, your obvious disdain for the USA in your off-handed comments is growing, and it's getting old. |
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NYC_Gal 2.0
Joined: 10 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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Tom, usually you're a gem, but what's with the snarkiness regarding the rights of Americans in their own country? Why put that word into quotes? You don't like free speech? Minimum wage? No child labor?
Now, I'm not saying that there aren't a crapload of problems and loopholes, but these are some important rights. We know that they don't exist everywhere, but don't disparage these things.
Take care.
To the OP: Don't bring it. If you want to carve with it or use it camping, just buy one here. If you plan on carrying it around every day, you're only asking for trouble. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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| NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote: |
Tom, usually you're a gem, but what's with the snarkiness regarding the rights of Americans in their own country? Why put that word into quotes? You don't like free speech? Minimum wage? No child labor?
Now, I'm not saying that there aren't a crapload of problems and loopholes, but these are some important rights. We know that they don't exist everywhere, but don't disparage these things. |
The issue is NOT American rights in the States. The problem arrises when they travel and think that they can EXPORT their "rights" when they don't exist off-shore and then they get into trouble when there was no need for it.
I have no problem with Americans carrying knifes, owning guns, hunting, target or competitive shooting (I used to shoot IPSC), carving logs into whistles ...
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when Americans leave the US of A they do not carry their "rights" with them. Their embassy can't help them when they try to exercise those "rights" and get into a bucket-load of trouble and there is no reason for them to end up in that bucket-load of trouble or having problems when it wasn't necessary.
From the US embassy website:
Reading the Korean Constitution may lead one to conclude that the Korean and U.S. legal systems are virtually the same. Although this may seem so, there are a number of very significant differences. The main point to remember is that an American in Korea is subject to Korean laws, not American laws.
It is NOT anti Americanism, it is trying to keep youngsters out of trouble because the rules are NOT the same, you do NOT carry the constitution with you and you have no legal protections offered by it. You step out of the US of A and the rules you grew up with ARE different.
Play by the new rule book, stay home or pay the price. The choice is yours / theirs.
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tideout
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| Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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FWIW-
I didn't take the ttpatz post the same way.
I do think a number of Americans (I'm one, so I've heard some weird perspectives) assume that their idea of what's a right carries over everywhere. I think people may be a bit assuming when they enter Korea especially as it's an ally a democratic country etc.. w/o realizing the subtleties or big differences that can exist in law, culture etc..
There are probably some who think that due to the militarized nature of SK that there are a lot of handguns in the public like the US and so on.... |
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NYC_Gal 2.0
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| Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
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Tom, usually you're a gem, but what's with the snarkiness regarding the rights of Americans in their own country? Why put that word into quotes? You don't like free speech? Minimum wage? No child labor?
Now, I'm not saying that there aren't a crapload of problems and loopholes, but these are some important rights. We know that they don't exist everywhere, but don't disparage these things. |
The issue is NOT American rights in the States. The problem arrises when they travel and think that they can EXPORT their "rights" when they don't exist off-shore and then they get into trouble when there was no need for it.
I have no problem with Americans carrying knifes, owning guns, hunting, target or competitive shooting (I used to shoot IPSC), carving logs into whistles ...
but
when Americans leave the US of A they do not carry their "rights" with them. Their embassy can't help them when they try to exercise those "rights" and get into a bucket-load of trouble and there is no reason for them to end up in that bucket-load of trouble or having problems when it wasn't necessary.
From the US embassy website:
Reading the Korean Constitution may lead one to conclude that the Korean and U.S. legal systems are virtually the same. Although this may seem so, there are a number of very significant differences. The main point to remember is that an American in Korea is subject to Korean laws, not American laws.
It is NOT anti Americanism, it is trying to keep youngsters out of trouble because the rules are NOT the same, you do NOT carry the constitution with you and you have no legal protections offered by it. You step out of the US of A and the rules you grew up with ARE different.
Play by the new rule book, stay home or pay the price. The choice is yours / theirs.
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Well that's common sense to most Americans, but you're continuing the snark with the use of quotations. They are rights, though they don't exist everywhere. You demean those rights and Americans by doing so. Just use a nicer tone. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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| NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote: |
| Well that's common sense to most Americans, but you're continuing the snark with the use of quotations. They are rights, though they don't exist everywhere. You demean those rights and Americans by doing so. Just use a nicer tone. |
This topic is headed for off-topic but I would like to add simply...
In the US they are your rights. Feel free to exercise them there. It is your "right" to do so.
They are NOT "rights" when you leave the States.
They are not even privileges for foreigners in most countries (including Korea) and they do you no good when you travel abroad other than to get yourself into trouble when you try to exercise them.
Leave the whole concept at home and stay out of trouble.
Back to the OP. "Carry laws" as they pertain to Koreans do NOT necessarily translate to foreigners (just get picked up for a non-related issue and let them find the knife in your pocket and find out).
It is smuggling. There IS a line item on the customs declaration in regards to knives. Answer yes and they confiscate it. Answer no and you are guilty of smuggling.
AND in closing....
there is NOTHING common about common sense (universal truth and not restricted to Americans or any other nationality). Human foolishness knows no nationality.
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radcon
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| Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Where in the OP does it say he is American? Rushing to judgement Tom. Don't knives exist in Canada? |
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ttompatz
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Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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| radcon wrote: |
| Where in the OP does it say he is American? Rushing to judgement Tom. Don't knives exist in Canada? |
Yea.... I am always quick to jump to conclusions without anything to back it up.... Care to make a wager?
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