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Auslegung
Joined: 14 Jan 2009
Location: MB, SC
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 Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:04 am Post subject: Anyone doing Paleo/Caveman/Hunter-Gatherer Diet? |
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I plan on starting in Gangnam in June. I've been to Korea before but wasn't on any particular diet, but now I'm doing the Paleo diet (aka Caveman diet or Hunter-Gatherer diet). I was wondering if anyone else is doing it, and what is your success? I've found that grains HURT my stomach terribly, which would include rice, and I know how hard it is going to be to avoid that. I can already imagine the looks I'm going to get when I tell them I don't eat rice. I'm considering getting used to eating rice again, just for convenience's sake.
Anyone, are you able to stick to the diet pretty well? I remember there weren't too many fruits available, which is unfortunate because I LOVE fruits. I'll be in Gangnam and I remember there's a costco somewhere nearby, so I imagine if I try real hard I'll be able to manage. Thanks for your input. |
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fortysixyou
Joined: 08 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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I found it to be pretty difficult, personally. Decent results if you can stick to it, but almost impossible to do so. Sure, you can go out and get 삼겹살 with all the fixins minus the rice, and be pretty satisfied afterwards, but sooner or later you're gonna get sick of doing that.
I've tried the no carbs thing, and I've tried just limiting meal sizes, both with the same rate of weight loss success: about 2 lbs. / week loss. |
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Zyzyfer
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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| Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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How many dishes in Korea actually *require* the consumption of rice?
burnt rice soup
fried rice dishes
bibimbap
kimbap
No *grains* is of course a little harder. Noodles make it into practically everything. |
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Rutherford
Joined: 31 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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I've been eating this way lately and find it surprisingly easy to do in Korea. Cooking at home is no problem. Grilled meat and veggie side dishes are an easy choice for going out with friends. If you need a quick meal or a cheap lunch, just order almost any soup. If it's a soup normally served with rice inside, ask for it 따로 (ddaro, means seperate, as in rice on the side).
There's also a great 고갈비 place in my neighborhood. 6,000 gets you a grilled fish, rice, and a bunch of side dishes. Just don't eat the rice. |
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yeti08
Joined: 04 Nov 2009
Location: Anyang - Pyeongchon
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| Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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Just recently came back to Korea after an extended break (5 months) in America. I started doing it about 3 months ago. I love it. I have definitely seen results and have not had a health issues.
I do cheat from time to time, but not with anything terrible. Some alcohol, dairy, or potatoes. I don't like rice or pasta so the difficult part for me is beer and ice cream. Pizza I guess too.....oh man pizza.
Good luck. And if you'd like to compare notes or what you're eating pm me. |
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Auslegung
Joined: 14 Jan 2009
Location: MB, SC
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| Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:03 am Post subject: |
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I appreciate everyone's input, it looks like if I try hard enough I'll be able to do it. I've been doing this diet for the last 3 months in America and it's really pretty easy to do. Or rather, it's easy to acquire the necessary foods, but training your taste buds to crave fruit instead of ice cream is difficult. On this diet it's necessary to avoid eating out, so I'm already of that mindset and plan to cook most of my meals.
For anyone who's interested in more (There are over 200 hits on this thread at the time of this writing, but only 5 responses, which means people are interested), go to freetheanimal [dot] com/fat-loss-techniques. That site is a wealth of information, and that link was the first thing I saw that was mostly about diet. |
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nero
Joined: 11 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:56 am Post subject: |
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| Auslegung wrote: |
I appreciate everyone's input, it looks like if I try hard enough I'll be able to do it. I've been doing this diet for the last 3 months in America and it's really pretty easy to do. Or rather, it's easy to acquire the necessary foods, but training your taste buds to crave fruit instead of ice cream is difficult. On this diet it's necessary to avoid eating out, so I'm already of that mindset and plan to cook most of my meals.
For anyone who's interested in more (There are over 200 hits on this thread at the time of this writing, but only 5 responses, which means people are interested), go to freetheanimal [dot] com/fat-loss-techniques. That site is a wealth of information, and that link was the first thing I saw that was mostly about diet. |
I think people like watching the crazy. |
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jfromtheway
Joined: 20 Nov 2010
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| Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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| nero wrote: |
| Auslegung wrote: |
I appreciate everyone's input, it looks like if I try hard enough I'll be able to do it. I've been doing this diet for the last 3 months in America and it's really pretty easy to do. Or rather, it's easy to acquire the necessary foods, but training your taste buds to crave fruit instead of ice cream is difficult. On this diet it's necessary to avoid eating out, so I'm already of that mindset and plan to cook most of my meals.
For anyone who's interested in more (There are over 200 hits on this thread at the time of this writing, but only 5 responses, which means people are interested), go to freetheanimal [dot] com/fat-loss-techniques. That site is a wealth of information, and that link was the first thing I saw that was mostly about diet. |
I think people like watching the crazy. |
And the title sounds like a joke. I thought it going to be another hate on fat people post. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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| jfromtheway wrote: |
| nero wrote: |
| Auslegung wrote: |
I appreciate everyone's input, it looks like if I try hard enough I'll be able to do it. I've been doing this diet for the last 3 months in America and it's really pretty easy to do. Or rather, it's easy to acquire the necessary foods, but training your taste buds to crave fruit instead of ice cream is difficult. On this diet it's necessary to avoid eating out, so I'm already of that mindset and plan to cook most of my meals.
For anyone who's interested in more (There are over 200 hits on this thread at the time of this writing, but only 5 responses, which means people are interested), go to freetheanimal [dot] com/fat-loss-techniques. That site is a wealth of information, and that link was the first thing I saw that was mostly about diet. |
I think people like watching the crazy. |
And the title sounds like a joke. I thought it going to be another hate on fat people post. |
I'm disappointed in the lack of humorous replies.
Surely there should have been some sort of Geico reference by now. |
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chungbukdo
Joined: 22 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 6:14 am Post subject: Re: Anyone doing Paleo/Caveman/Hunter-Gatherer Diet? |
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| Auslegung wrote: |
| I plan on starting in Gangnam in June. I've been to Korea before but wasn't on any particular diet, but now I'm doing the Paleo diet (aka Caveman diet or Hunter-Gatherer diet). I was wondering if anyone else is doing it, and what is your success? I've found that grains HURT my stomach terribly, which would include rice, and I know how hard it is going to be to avoid that. |
I'm on the Paleo diet and have been for the past 7 years. It is the only thing that cured my acne completely (acne that was not cured by any dermatologist or even dangerous medications like Accutane) along with a few other digestive issues for me.
I eat polished white rice like Koreans eat though. It doesn't have any of the big no-nos in it like lectins which cross the endothelial lining of the gut and enter into the bloodstream to cause an immune reaction. Nor does it have phytates which inhibit nutrient absorbtion (but it also barely has any nutrients). My opinion is that rice shouldn't actually hurt your stomach, the only reason not to include it is if you have blood sugar issues like diabetes, are overweight, or are struggling to get more micronutrients (vitamins and minerals in your diet).
Also, fermented, salted, spiced vegetables like kimchi are not technically Paleo but I eat them anyway. All the salting and spice may be the reason for Korea's abysmal rate of stomach cancer (the highest in the world) but I would rather just enjoy kimchi like everyone else. You'll need to balance these salted fermented vegetables with fresh fruits and vegetables in order to keep your potential renal acid load in check.
My Korean girlfriend also eats this way and has done so for the past year and a half. It also cleared her skin and she's improved a lot in the gym. My uncle also has the neurological condition multiple sclerosis which renders people's limbs unusable and ultimately results in death. With a stricter implementation of the diet we were able to get him to wear his MS has halted its progression with no medication whatsoever. That's because multiple schlerosis is an autoimmune disease and this diet (with a few modifiers) does wonders for autoimmune diseases. I'm toying with putting up a website on how to cure MS in the future to help the thousands of people suffering from this disease.
If you have any questions about the diet just post them up in this thread. The Freetheanimal guy is a douche; doesn't know anything about the diet yet people take him as an expert because he takes pictures of his food and has kept a blog complaining and swearing about stuff for the past few years. His greatest accomplishment is going from fat to slightly less fat (which people can do on any sort of diet). |
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Auslegung
Joined: 14 Jan 2009
Location: MB, SC
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| Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 6:32 am Post subject: Re: Anyone doing Paleo/Caveman/Hunter-Gatherer Diet? |
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Chungbukdo, I get a definite pain about 1.5 inches below my solar plexus whenever I eat any grain, excepting intact grains such as oats and quinoa, if you consider quinoa a grain, but I was hoping that my problem with rice was more of a problem with the things they do to it rather than rice itself, and I appreciate your input. I was trying to wrap my head around the fact that Japanese and Koreans are generally more healthy than Americans, and yet they eat rice like it's going out of style. I was wondering how to reconcile bread having been the cause of lots of health problems in the West, and bread and rice having the same exact effect on me.
| chungbukdo wrote: |
| Also, fermented, salted, spiced vegetables like kimchi are not technically Paleo but I eat them anyway. All the salting and spice may be the reason for Korea's abysmal rate of stomach cancer (the highest in the world) |
Are you saying that not only does kimchi not cure cancer, swine flu, anthrax, and radiation poisoning, but you're saying it causes cancer? You, sir, should watch what you say around here, you're liable to be killed by the locals. 
As for the freetheanimal guy, I think he's good at implementing the overall lifestyle, even taking it as far as putting his 2 pet dogs on a primitive, natural diet. He's also blogged a lot about not using soap or shampoo for over 18 months (which I've done for almost 3 months with no BO, no more dry skin, no need to use aftershave lotion), he reports on the blood work that he regularly gets done, and some of his posts, though you have to search hard for them, have LOTS of good nutritional information. You're right that he's a bit of a douche, though, that's for sure.
And as far as hate on fat people, of course they are less than people and shouldn't be allowed a full vote in the government. The less you weigh the more votes you should get, so that an unborn baby would receive 100 votes, and I think that would fix a lot: the abortion issue, overpopulation concerns, prostitution, and the legalization of marijuana.
And cavemen? Don't even get me started. Homo erectus beat the crap out of them millions of years ago because they couldn't adapt to the end of the ice age. I'd say there's a several-million-years-overdue IN YO FACE that they deserve. And the reason homo erectus won? Kimchi. That's right, kimchi. |
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tukmax
Joined: 06 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 7:41 am Post subject: |
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Have you seen the documentary Fat Head? It is not about paleo diet per say, but it is similar. You should check it out.
Also, the blogs of Marks Daily apple and Rob Wolf are good resources. |
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Css
Joined: 27 Sep 2004
Location: South of the river
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| Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 11:25 am Post subject: |
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Im gonna be back on it again soon...
Wish there were more paleo dudes here in korea. |
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flakfizer
Joined: 12 Nov 2004
Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.
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| Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
| jfromtheway wrote: |
| nero wrote: |
| Auslegung wrote: |
I appreciate everyone's input, it looks like if I try hard enough I'll be able to do it. I've been doing this diet for the last 3 months in America and it's really pretty easy to do. Or rather, it's easy to acquire the necessary foods, but training your taste buds to crave fruit instead of ice cream is difficult. On this diet it's necessary to avoid eating out, so I'm already of that mindset and plan to cook most of my meals.
For anyone who's interested in more (There are over 200 hits on this thread at the time of this writing, but only 5 responses, which means people are interested), go to freetheanimal [dot] com/fat-loss-techniques. That site is a wealth of information, and that link was the first thing I saw that was mostly about diet. |
I think people like watching the crazy. |
And the title sounds like a joke. I thought it going to be another hate on fat people post. |
I'm disappointed in the lack of humorous replies.
Surely there should have been some sort of Geico reference by now. |
I went on the caveman diet once. I lost 10 pounds of fat, but gained 10 pounds of body hair. |
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bucheonleon
Joined: 04 Feb 2006
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| Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 5:34 am Post subject: |
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I've been doing it about two months. I purposely haven't weighed myself, but estimate I've lost about 20 pounds. Three belt holes. And NEVER been hungry.
I work near a Homeplus, so I just stop there every night after work for a few minutes. I know where the sections are where they discount food that will be unsaleable soon, so I just check those few places and pick up whatever cheap meat, fresh veggies, and fruit they have. It works out rather cheap. Either my wife or I cook it up, or if there's too much we toss it in the freezer for a weekend.
20 pounds. Never hungry. Great food. Tons of energy. I recommend it. |
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