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Practicum hours needed if lots of experience?

 
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1,000 hours experience equal to 20 hours practicum?
Yes
66%
 66%  [ 2 ]
No
33%
 33%  [ 1 ]
Total Votes : 3

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Hungry_Ghost



Joined: 09 Dec 2012

PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 2:49 pm    Post subject: Practicum hours needed if lots of experience? Reply with quote

Hi;

I have taught ESL for over 1,000 hours, in Korea and North America. I can verify this experience with letters of reference and employment verification; student evaluations; pay stubs in some cases; and executed teaching contracts.

If I can verify these hours, how important is having a TEFL or CELTA credential that includes a practicum?

I got by in the '90's with a TESOL course (I can no longer find the certificate/parchment, and the school is not returning my e-mails). I am deciding what kind of credential course I should sign up for.

Will I be competitive with an online TEFL that does not include a practicum? I teach ESL to adult learners, not children.

PLEASE NOTE: My questions is clearly asking about my competitiveness in the Korean labour market. People with poor comprehension skills and a twisted sense of personal boundaries might take my question as an opportunity to indulge in finger-wagging, intrusiveness, and pontificating about their perception of a practicum. Please respect my personal boundaries, and know that condescension and sarcasm are always unwelcome.

In terms of my competitiveness, what do you think? Thanks for any advice!


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edwardcatflap



Joined: 22 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends who you want to work for. British Council requires a CELTA or equiv, Wall Street recommends one, YBM aren't really bothered. Generally most hagwans would be more interested in your age, gender, nationality and looks than your past experience or TEFL cert.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2015 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1000 hours of teaching do not equal a practicum.

1000 hours of bad habits with no feedback = 1000 hours of reinforced bad habits.

20 hours of observed and critiqued practicum allows for feedback, adjustment, reflection and improvement based on the outside eyes of the observer.

If you think that is unnecessary they why do legitimate schools and universities need "accreditation"?
(hint: outside eyes observing and providing improvement through feedback, quality control, adjustment and reflection).

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young_clinton



Joined: 09 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2015 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

edwardcatflap wrote:
Depends who you want to work for. British Council requires a CELTA or equiv, Wall Street recommends one, YBM aren't really bothered. Generally most hagwans would be more interested in your age, gender, nationality and looks than your past experience or TEFL cert.


I get the impression that Wall Street, at least the ones I have been to - Bangkok and Riyadh, are very interested in age and looks.
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edwardcatflap



Joined: 22 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2015 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

young_clinton wrote:
edwardcatflap wrote:
Depends who you want to work for. British Council requires a CELTA or equiv, Wall Street recommends one, YBM aren't really bothered. Generally most hagwans would be more interested in your age, gender, nationality and looks than your past experience or TEFL cert.


I get the impression that Wall Street, at least the ones I have been to - Bangkok and Riyadh, are very interested in age and looks.


Probably the same in Seoul, judging from their adverts.
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SeoulNate



Joined: 04 Jun 2010
Location: Hyehwa

PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2015 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

edwardcatflap wrote:
young_clinton wrote:
edwardcatflap wrote:
Depends who you want to work for. British Council requires a CELTA or equiv, Wall Street recommends one, YBM aren't really bothered. Generally most hagwans would be more interested in your age, gender, nationality and looks than your past experience or TEFL cert.


I get the impression that Wall Street, at least the ones I have been to - Bangkok and Riyadh, are very interested in age and looks.


Probably the same in Seoul, judging from their adverts.


Don't think so judging from the people I see walking out of that place everyday Shocked
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isitts



Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2015 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The poll is closed with only three votes? Ok...

Also, OP, the question on the poll requires an opposite answer from the question on the thread subject heading.
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