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tomato

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 8:40 pm Post subject: foreign derivatives in Korean |
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Let's see how many foreign derivatives in Korean we can collect.
These are the rules:
1. No Chinese words. That's too easy.
2. English words are okay if they are in turn borrowed from exotic sources.
Germanic, Latin, and Greek derivatives are too easy.
3. Any other language is okay.
4. Proper names are okay if they have been applied with new meaning in Korea. Names of stores or store chains are okay. Names of foreign countries, foreign languages, foreign officials, and foreign media celebrities are too easy.
Here are my contributions:
ARABIC: banana, alcohol, sofa, zero
ARAWAKAN: barbecue
CZECH: robot
DHARUG: koala, boomerang
FINNISH: sauna
FRENCH: hotel, massage, cassette, mansion, cafe, bidet,
coup d'etat, vacance, atelier
Also the bakery chain named Touts les jours.
GERMAN: waltz, gauss
hof (seems to be a shortening of Gasthof, meaning "pub"), �Ƹ�����Ʈ (arbeit)
GUUGU-YIMIDHIRR: kangaroo
HINDI: shampoo
ITALIAN: pizza, spaghetti, radio, opera, sonata, piano, orchestra, camera, tomato, broccoli, cafeteria, arpeggio, a cappella, studio
For some reason, the ��â�� area of û�� abounds with restaurants with Italian names. In just one block, you can see Vivace, Vivaldi, and Cello.
JAPANESE: judo
I saw the word �����縶, meaning "handcart," listed in the dictionary.
MALAY: orangutan
NAHWATL: chocolate
NORWEGIAN: ski
PERSIAN: tulip
POLYNESIAN: kiwi
SANSKRIT: yoga
TAGALOG: yoyo
TAMIL: mango
TURKISH: yogurt
I'm curious about where the word �� (bread) comes from. Does it come from a Romance language, or is this a coincidence?
I have also wondered why �⸰, the word for "giraffe," is similar to the Japanese word. It can't be Japanese, because it is written in katakana in Japanese.
A bonus point for whoever can open up a new language category, explain where �� comes from, or explain where �⸰ comes from.
Sorry, no cash prizes.
Last edited by tomato on Tue Dec 14, 2004 2:48 am; edited 10 times in total |
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Leslie Cheswyck

Joined: 31 May 2003 Location: University of Western Chile
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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1. No Chinese words. That's too easy. |
Whaddaya mean no Chinese? They say 'take-out' here, don't they?
I wonder if 'bori' is derived from 'barley' in some way.
And if the Spanish word for turkey, 'pavo' has any connection to the Korean word 'babo'. |
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Pyongshin Sangja

Joined: 20 Apr 2003 Location: I love baby!
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 2:31 am Post subject: |
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And if the Spanish word for turkey, 'pavo' has any connection to the Korean word 'babo'. |
Babo means rice-eater. |
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Yangkho

Joined: 22 Sep 2003 Location: Honam
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 3:21 am Post subject: |
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I believe �� comes from the Portuguese pao.
I don't know, though, if it came directly, or through a third language, like Chinese. |
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katydid

Joined: 02 Feb 2003 Location: Here kitty kitty kitty...
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 3:41 am Post subject: |
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I'd say that could be from the French too. Bread in French is "pain" said very nasally. |
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J.B. Clamence

Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 4:39 am Post subject: |
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They say "Pijama" for pyjamas here, right? I believe that's Hindi as well.
New language catagory: Latin! For example, visa ("bija"). I'm sure there are probably quite a few more from Latin filtered through English and other Western languages.
I did a quick search for "girin." It turns out that the Somali word for giraffe.
katydid wrote: |
I'd say that could be from the French too. Bread in French is "pain" said very nasally. |
Yes, that's it. In Japanese it's even more obvious: "pan"
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Yangkho

Joined: 22 Sep 2003 Location: Honam
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 4:44 am Post subject: |
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�� (��pao ��)[����]
1. ��� ���縦 �����Ͽ� ���� ����.
�� ���� ����./��ħ �Ļ�� ���� ������ �Դ�.
2. ����� ���� �����̳� �ķ��� �����Ͽ� �̸��� ��.
�һ���� �������δ� �� �� ����.
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katydid

Joined: 02 Feb 2003 Location: Here kitty kitty kitty...
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 4:58 am Post subject: |
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J.B. Clamence wrote: |
They say "Pijama" for pyjamas here, right? I believe that's Hindi as well. |
Nerd girl back again.
"Pajamas" is actually a Persian word. |
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