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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 12:16 am    Post subject: Laptop question Reply with quote

Thinking about buying the following laptop in Thailand, any comments?

IBM ThinkPad R51 - 1830KA4 by IBM
(P M 735-1.8GHz, 512MB DDR, 60GB, DVD&CD-RW, Wireless, TFT 15")

Chipset 855PM
Processor Type Intel Centrino Mobile Intel Pentium M 735
Processor Speed (GHz) 1.8
RAM (MB) 512 (2x256)
Hard Drive (GB) 60
DVD Speed DVD-RW Muti Burner
Display Size (Inch) 15
Operating System MS Windows XP Professional
Weight 2900 g.
Dimension(WxLxH) 33.2 x 26.9 x 3.7 cm.


The price is 69,000THB w/ carrying case etc...roughly 1,858,878.59 KRW
Is this a good computor at this price?
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Gollum



Joined: 04 Sep 2003
Location: Japan

PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My question is this...

Is it a Centrino (non-Pentium) or an actual Pentium M?

I thought the Centrino was like the Celeron?

Sounds like they worded it in such a way as to fool someone into buying less and paying more.
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SuperFly



Joined: 09 Jul 2003
Location: In the doghouse

PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Um I work for the company that makes that laptop, no one here uses the R...the T series laptop is the one we issue to all of our employees.
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Demophobe



Joined: 17 May 2004

PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SuperFly wrote:
Um I work for the company that makes that laptop, no one here uses the R...the T series laptop is the one we issue to all of our employees.



Am I the only one who thinks you could have answered the question Derrek posed? Maybe you only are in the "model number naming" department?
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dogbert



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: Killbox 90210

PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't IBM exiting the PC business?
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pdxsteve



Joined: 29 Sep 2004
Location: Bundang

PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gollum wrote:
My question is this...

Is it a Centrino (non-Pentium) or an actual Pentium M?

I thought the Centrino was like the Celeron?

Sounds like they worded it in such a way as to fool someone into buying less and paying more.


"Centrino" isn't a type of CPU. Centrino is Intel's name for its combination of the Pentium M Processor, wireless networking support, and Intel mobile chipset. If a manufacturer puts these items into its laptop, then it can claim it has built a laptop with "Intel Centrino Mobile Technology".

But, you can get the same results in any laptop, with any type of cpu and wirless network card. Centrino is merely a trademark. It isn't an actual product in and of itself.
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Sage Monkey



Joined: 01 Nov 2004

PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spliff, what are you planning to use this laptop for? Noone can tell you how good that computer will be for you if we don't know this.
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just for internet, downloading music and the occassional movie.
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Bulsajo



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://reviews.cnet.com/IBM_ThinkPad_R51/4505-3121_7-30847902.html

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Is this a good computor at this price?

It sounds good to me, but I haven't been keeping up with laptops these days. IBM is certainly known for making good laptops, but they're also known to be pricier. What kind of warranty comes with it?
An international one hopefully...

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R51: Competing Products

IBM ThinkPad X31
Better features in an alternative model
Before you decide to buy the IBM ThinkPad R51, you might want to compare it to the IBM ThinkPad X31, an ultra light notebook which has certain advantages. For instance, it has a Pentium 4 processor, compared to the Pentium M of the IBM ThinkPad R51. In addition, the IBM ThinkPad X31 has only a 3.6-pound weight, as opposed to 6.4 pounds for the IBM ThinkPad R51. And at $1,655, it costs just $190 more than the IBM ThinkPad R51. Generally, IBM Thinkpads lead the way in terms of design, with features such as keyboard lighting, brilliant displays, and what many consider the most responsive keyboards in the industry.
Product info | Buy info


Sony VAIO K35
Better features, comparable price
There's a rather tempting alternative to the IBM ThinkPad R51. Going for around $1,630, the Sony VAIO K35 has 512 MB RAM, which is more than that of the IBM product (256 MB). The Sony model also has an 80GB hard drive, which is larger than that of the IBM ThinkPad R51 (40GB).
Product info | Buy info


IBM ThinkPad G41
Better features
For just a little more money, you could upgrade to the IBM ThinkPad G41, which has certain advantages. For instance, it has 512 MB RAM, compared to the 256 MB of the IBM ThinkPad R51. In addition, the IBM ThinkPad G41 has a Pentium 4 processor, as opposed to Pentium M processor for the IBM ThinkPad R51. And at $1,680, you only have to pay $215 more than you would for the IBM ThinkPad R51. Generally, IBM Thinkpads lead the way in terms of design, with features such as keyboard lighting, brilliant displays, and what many consider the most responsive keyboards in the industry.
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanx for the info! It's a three year international warranty.
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about this product?

Sony VAIO PCG-K86SP by Sony
(P4 - 3.2GHz, 512MB DDR, 60GB, DVD+/-RW, TFT 15.4" Wide, Win XP Pro)
Our Price : 74,673 Baht
Operating System Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional with Service Pack 2 (English version)
Chipset ATI Technologies Inc. RADEON�� IGP345M/ ALi M1535+
Processor Speed (GHz) 3.20
RAM (MB) 512
Hard Drive (GB) 60 GB (C: 15GB, D: 45GB)
DVD Speed DVD��RW Drive (supporting DVD+R Double Layer disc)
Maximum reading speed:
- DVD+R, DVD-R, DVD-ROM: 8x
- DVD+RW, DVD-RW: 6x
- DVD+R DL (Double Layer): 4x
- CD-RW: 10x
- CD-R, CD-ROM: 24x
Maximum writing speed:
- DVD+R DL (Double Layer): 2.4x
- DVD+R, DVD-R: 8x
- DVD+RW, DVD-RW: 4x
- CD-R, CD-RW: 24x

Display Size (Inch) 15.4" Wide
Processor Type Mobile Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 538 -Supports Enhanced Intel SpeedStep® Technology
Weight 3700 g.
Dimension(WxLxH) 35.7 x 27.75 x 4.1 cm.
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Sage Monkey



Joined: 01 Nov 2004

PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go for the second one you posted. If you are doing anything with video you will want AT LEAST a P4 co-processor. P4 with 3.2ghz is hands-down better than Centrino 855m with 1.8 ghz.
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kprrok



Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Location: KC

PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 3:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you do go with the P4, get an extra battery and a good external fan to keep your laptop cool. They tend to run hotter than the Centrino models which are designed for wireless/laptop usage, from what I've heard.

KPRROK
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Sage Monkey



Joined: 01 Nov 2004

PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kprrok wrote:
If you do go with the P4, get an extra battery and a good external fan to keep your laptop cool. They tend to run hotter than the Centrino models which are designed for wireless/laptop usage, from what I've heard.

KPRROK


This is true. Very true! I fried a CPU (on warranty), due to overheating. Get a "cooling pad" if you are getting a P4m. Notice the "m" at the end of the P4 there, that is a p4 for notebooks.
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah...I kind of like the increased speed that the sony offers. But, does it have wireless networking support?
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