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Milwaukiedave · Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Location: Goseong

I had an interesting situation arise today. This was my second to last day at my job. I teach one elementry class in the late afternoon. Most of the students are pretty unruly, but one of them is really bad.

This kids behavior is so out there it's just rediculous. He punches other students and has even punched me. He's told me to f off as well. I've punished him, talked to the director about him. We all agree he's a little b@st@rd.

Today, since it was my last day, we played a game. I told them as long as they behaved, we would continue playing. Tony kept acting up and I finally warned him one more time and he'd be out in the hall by himself while we finshed playing the game.

One of the other students said something to him (in Korean of course) and he went over and kicked the kid in the head and then sat down.

I went over and grabbed him by his coat and dragged him to the door. Then I pulled on his ear and said, "Do we kick or hit people?" Then I opened the door, picked him up by his jacket and slid him out into the hall.

After that I went back in the room and we really only had a few minutes left. I put the game away and released my class. Then I walked out in the hall and told him to follow me. I took him to the teacher's room and told him to sit down. I went and got my director and told her that this kid should be expelled from the school and that he kicked another student in the head.

Zed · Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Location: Shakedown Street

I'm so glad I haven't had to deal with that kind of crap this year. reading stories about little brats makes me convinced not to accept any jobs teaching them. Thanks.

No, I don't think you went too far.

Yangkho · Joined: 22 Sep 2003 Location: Honam

No, I don't think you went too far.

However, sometimes, in a hagwon situation (such as the one I was in last year), such a thing is unacceptable because you might lose business, be it just one student--or several if the kid's mother holds sway among the other parents.

It all depends on your boss. If you have his or her support on this, you're all set.

Zed · Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Location: Shakedown Street

It never seems to occur to them that they will lose even more students by keeping shit-disturbers in the hagwon.

captain kirk · Joined: 29 Jan 2003

Not at all, he should be expelled. If you asked the kids they'd probably all say they can't stand him. Kind of kid who thrives on negative attention so much it would just be perpetual madness with him around. Some kids need shrinks.

schwa · Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Yap

Shrinks, unfortunately, are far from widely available to kids who need them here. Untrained homeroom teachers do their best, but often come up short. Its a national embarrassment. If you can make any small difference as an occasional mentor, by all means go for it.

Pligganease · Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Location: The deep south...

I have a tactic... What ever he does, do it back with "Super Adult Waygook Strength Power Attack." It really works well if you say "Power Attack" Shocked

when you do it. It is embarrasing and painful, and the lesson is learned quickly.

captain kirk · Joined: 29 Jan 2003

Nobody at our haggie is bad as 'kick in the head deliveryboy'. Brian is an acter-upper, 12, but not violent. Cobra is goofy as heck and very smart. Those acter-uppers I get sitting up front near me. What they crave is attention, so they like being near teacherer. It's easier than going hoarse and then lunging in a 'super power wagegook teacher attack'. But if one has already sewn the cape and jersey, has the boots, then bravo. Mine's at the cleaners since a kid countered my board marker with an hidden, contraband indelible pen.

Kim Jong Jordan · Joined: 13 Mar 2004 Location: The Internet

Grotto · Joined: 21 Mar 2004

you would think the boss would be afraid of other parents pulling thier kids out of a hogwan that allows them to be beaten Exclamation

perhaps if you phrased it that way to him he might understand.

kudos for protecting your students

Kim Jong Jordan · Joined: 13 Mar 2004 Location: The Internet

just because · Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Location: Changwon - 4964

Dylan · Joined: 04 Nov 2003 Location: Changwon

I don't think you went too far at all. I've had to, on occasion, do the same kind of thing not long after I got here and started having some discipline problems. Once, a kid actually tried to start wailing on me and I, of course, said no way and basically held the kid down until he stopped. My Korean co-workers have been supportive of my actions because they know that unless a kid is really bad then I won't resort to kicking them out. However, I do have the no hitting rule which gets anyone kicked out for the class if they break it. Not surprisingly, after the rule was seen to be heavily enforced, the kids stopped hitting.

I think so long as your co-workers and your boss support you then your actions are totally justified.

Milwaukiedave · Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Location: Goseong

Well I can tell you two things for sure. 1) It felt good 2) I wish I had done it earlier.

He's lucky I didn't sit on him and then pass gas (fart).

Talk about cruel and unusual punishment! LOL

shawner88 · Joined: 01 Feb 2003

I used to use a stick on little twerps like that by my boss's advice. Did I like it? No. Was it effective? Somewhat. Did it make me feel good to see little Jerknuts squirm? Not as much as it would have made me to see him quit, but it a little.