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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 4:56 pm    Post subject: Korean palindromes? Reply with quote

��������? Chair of rulers?
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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency

PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

(Sorry, I didn't make any of these up myself)


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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency

PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is only slightly related, but doesn't the �����ũ��븮 (Dae-deok Techno Valley) look more like Dae-daeok take no belly?

And Bruce Willis in ȣ��Ƽ��. Is it Hostage? Or is it Hosty-G?
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mithridates wrote:
(Sorry, I didn't make any of these up myself)


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Geez and here I thought I was being brilliant! Smile I feel like Lisa Simpson at the house of that smarter girl. The dad gives her the name "Jeremy Irons" and wants her to come up with an anagram. She comes up with "errr Jeremy's Iron?"

Lisa's Rival:

http://www.snpp.com/episodes/1F17.html

Taylor: Hi, Lisa, I'm Alison's father, Professor Taylor. I've heard great things about you.

Lisa: Oh, really? I --

Taylor: Oh, don't be modest. I'm glad we have someone who can join us in our anagram game.

Alison: We take proper names and rearrange the letters to form a description of that person.

Taylor: Like, er...oh, I don't know, uh...Alec Guinness.

Alison: [thinks] Genuine class.

Taylor: Ho ho, very good. All right, Lisa, um...Jeremy Irons.

Lisa: [looks with consternation] Jeremy's...iron.

Taylor: Mm hmm, well that's...very good...for a first try. You know what? I have a ball. [pulls one from his pocket] Perhaps you'd like to bounce it?
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tomato



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found another which is similar to "�ٵ� �����."
It goes, "�ٵ� ����."
If we can find more verbs ending in -���, we can make up some originals.

I need some help, though:
What does �̺��� mean? I can't find it in the dictionary.

Also, I don't get this one:
Quote:

�Ƶ� ���� �� �Ǵ� �� �����.


The best I can do is:

The son says, "Daughters, this daughter is all grown."

Am I right?
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igotthisguitar



Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)

PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

>. Question ...

Why doesn't the word palindrome actually practise what it preaches ??? A little ironic isn't it ???

To be more consistent ( & representative ) it should be called palinilap OR a dromemord.

Friggin' OXFORD morans !!!
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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think "wordrow" would be a good one too. Wink
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

igotthisguitar wrote:
>. Question ...

Why doesn't the word palindrome actually practise what it preaches ??? A little ironic isn't it ???

To be more consistent ( & representative ) it should be called palinilap OR a dromemord.

Friggin' OXFORD morans !!!


There is a term for "words that describe themselves" ("Homological") and a term for "words that don't describe themselves" (Heterological). "Short" is homological. It's a short word. "Long" is "Heterological". It's not a long word. This then generates Russell's famous paradox. Is "heterological" heterological or homological?
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Guri Guy



Joined: 07 Sep 2003
Location: Bamboo Island

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not to be a nitpicker but are those words really palindromes? I thought a palindrome had to be spelled the same backwards and forwards. Ah heck, here is the dictionary definition. Razz

pal��in��drome ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pln-drm)
n.
A word, phrase, verse, or sentence that reads the same backward or forward. For example: A man, a plan, a canal, Panama!
A segment of double-stranded DNA in which the nucleotide sequence of one strand reads in reverse order to that of the complementary strand.


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[From Greek palindromos, running back again, recurring : palin, again; see kwel-1 in Indo-European Roots + dromos, a running.]


Like "noon" or "Otto" or words like that. I think �� would qualify so that's my contribution. Razz
Whatever the case, those words are interesting nonetheless.
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tomato



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello, Guri Guy!

No, those aren't palindromes.
When jajdude suggested wordrow, we got off the subject. That is both a palindrome and a homological word, so we got off on homological words.
I was afraid we would get the two mixed up, so I started a thread on homological words:

http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=37671&highlight=
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tomato



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do you like my palindromic song?

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