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Getting a uni job in year 2?!?
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blunder1983



Joined: 12 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:09 pm    Post subject: Getting a uni job in year 2?!? Reply with quote

Hi guys,

I'm torn between here or Taiwan next year and I, like countless thousands before me am looking into uni work.

So here's the deal.

I'll be 24 (K age) in Febuary and will finish my first year here in May. I've been working at a girls middle school in Incheon and have been given a lot of praise on my lessons and teaching technique from all my coteachers. I've also been offered a renewal of my contract already. My degree was from the University of Southampton where I got a dual honours in Economics and Management Science (2.1).

So what are my chances of landing a uni job? Any hints/tips?
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hack



Joined: 24 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You wouldn't be able to get a job at my uni because of your age, experience, lack of an MA and country of origin. They only hire 30+ here, 3+ years of EFL in a foreign country, MA and US/Canada only.
My advice is to send out as many rez as possible and if you don't get any bites, start door knocking in mid January as that's when they have to fill their positions and some instructors who either said they were comig back or accepted offers, take other jobs. Then the uni starts to panic and if you're in front of them and come across well you may scoop the job. Of course the downside of this is that to qualify you can't have another job and if you're not successful in finding anything then you have to scramble to get something else depending on your financial situation.
My advice would to be get at least another year or 2 of experience and if you can manage it, an MA online
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Pyongshin Sangja



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!

PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My uni is 8 Canadians, 8 Americans and 2 Brits. 9 BA's, 8 MA's and one Ph.D. We've hired Kiwis and Irish in the past, too. The last guy hired was a 25 yr-old American with a BA, although he does speak Korean quite well.

There's hope, hang in there.
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Drew345



Joined: 24 May 2005

PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also thought that University jobs required a Masters (could be MS or MA). I thought that this was an Immigration directive, so I am surprised that some Universities can hire with BA only. I just got a University job with no prior TEFL experience, so experience is not a necessity. One reason was that they like my Engineering degree and want me to teach Engineering writing. And we do have Aussies, here; so I don't think that America and Canada is a direct requirement. But we do stress American English over British, so that could be somewhat true. Koreans do favor American English; I guess because of the proximity and the number of Koreans that study in America.
That's my 2 cents, now one question.
Do Taiwan University teachers get the 21 weeks vacation like Korea University Teachers? Sorry for additional question and I don't mean to hijack your thread. Maybe you could give me a quick answer if you know.
Thanks,
Drew
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stumptown



Joined: 11 Apr 2005
Location: Paju: Wife beating capital of Korea

PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pyongshin Sangja wrote:
My uni is 8 Canadians, 8 Americans and 2 Brits. 9 BA's, 8 MA's and one Ph.D. We've hired Kiwis and Irish in the past, too. The last guy hired was a 25 yr-old American with a BA, although he does speak Korean quite well.

There's hope, hang in there.


Do you work at Incheon University by any chance?
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Pyongshin Sangja



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!

PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, I do not. Not even close.
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Keepongoing



Joined: 13 Feb 2003
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 12:22 pm    Post subject: i am the only one Reply with quote

i am the only MA holder at my Uni. Oh, of course all of our Korean teachers have MA's from places like McGill and Temple. The certainly can work with a BA in a Uni. Also one of our most poplular teachers was hired when he was 22.

Taiwan I hear is a different story. I am almost certain that to teach in a Uni there you must have an MA TESOL or M ED.
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The Hammer



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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stumptown



Joined: 11 Apr 2005
Location: Paju: Wife beating capital of Korea

PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm thinking about applying. Care to elaborate? PM me if you wish
Thanks
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magicwolfman



Joined: 01 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry Blunder, I dont think you have what it takes to work in a university. Your clever word searches arent going to work.
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ejmlab



Joined: 17 Feb 2005
Location: Pohang

PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you could get a job at a university. Alot of it comes down to the interview. If you're personable and sharp you could get a uni gig. The one problem I see for you is the end date of your current contract. Universities hire for March start dates. If you don't finish until May and really want uni work you could wait for the August hiring period. Maybe take a short term contract until August and then apply for university positions then. Anyways, good luck on getting a university job. There are plenty out there but beware of steadily declining conditions.

Cheers
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ilovebdt



Joined: 03 Jun 2005
Location: Nr Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

magicwolfman wrote:
Sorry Blunder, I dont think you have what it takes to work in a university. Your clever word searches arent going to work.


Oh, I don't know Wolfman. The students might enjoy the odd wordsearch. I know when I was at uni of anyone had given me a wordsearch which was relevant to my course, I would have been ecstatic.

Blunder, I'd say you can only apply and see what happens. If you don't then you will never know.

Ilovebdt
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blunder1983



Joined: 12 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I'll give it a shot. No harm in trying.

MW: Come on, insulting crosswords? You must have realised how weak that sounded while you were typing it. I'm really dissappointed in ur latest posts. You should stick with the faux religion angle for your trolling, you were far more offensive back then. And seriously, is your life SO boring that all you can do is just make pathetic oneliners on anonymous forum. Trying to get the smallest bit of attention?

Here is a big hug from me to cheer you up *HUG*. Now go back to insulting teachers ablities and using the bible as a means to belittle others, it was WAY more fun back then.

Thanks to all those offering real views. Whats the best way for me to approach universities? I can make my CV specifically targeted to them but do I wait for vacancies to appear on job boards or just blanket them all with applications regardless?
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magicwolfman



Joined: 01 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blunder1983 wrote:

MW: Come on, insulting crosswords? You must have realised how weak that sounded while you were typing it.


Sorry big guy, I was just offering you some advice. Your clever little crosswords (so you dont have to really teach) might work at your middle school in inchon, but it is not going to work at the university level. You are in denial. Just keep believing what all your middle school girls tell you.. lol.. you are handsome.. Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

blunder1983 wrote:

Here is a big hug from me to cheer you up *HUG*. Now go back to insulting teachers ablities and using the bible as a means to belittle others, it was WAY more fun back then.


Please keep your homosexual tendencies under wrap when talking to me. They are not only wrong in my eyes, but in the eyes of all God fearing and honoring people.
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the eye



Joined: 29 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

blunder1983 wrote:
Yeah I'll give it a shot. No harm in trying.

MW: Come on, insulting crosswords? You must have realised how weak that sounded while you were typing it. I'm really dissappointed in ur latest posts. You should stick with the faux religion angle for your trolling, you were far more offensive back then. And seriously, is your life SO boring that all you can do is just make pathetic oneliners on anonymous forum. Trying to get the smallest bit of attention?

Here is a big hug from me to cheer you up *HUG*. Now go back to insulting teachers ablities and using the bible as a means to belittle others, it was WAY more fun back then.

Thanks to all those offering real views. Whats the best way for me to approach universities? I can make my CV specifically targeted to them but do I wait for vacancies to appear on job boards or just blanket them all with applications regardless?




Magicwolfman is a known troll here on Dave's... pretty lame but i guess that's how he gets his kicks.
just ignore him and he'll go back to stealing movies off the internest like all good god-fearing people do.
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