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[cellphone]

Anyone else getting this? Sent mail from normal yahoo mail account (us) to Korean friend's hanmail.net, either super delayed or no go. I remember this happening in 1999 or 2000. Koreans apparently always like to be the ones to mess things up.

[krats1976]

It's happened ever since I got here in '03. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

*shrug* C'est la vie.

[Troll_Bait]

Very frustrating.

The so-called "hub of Asia."

Believing doesn't make it so.

[coffeeman]

Hotmail and Hanmail never seem to be able to communicate with each other.

Does anybody know the reason for the problem? You'd expect this kind of problem with China (because of their internet police), not Korea.

[RACETRAITOR]

I tested out Hotmail, Yahoo, and Gmail against Hanmail the other day. At present, Hotmail and Gmail work fine, but Yahoo ends up in the spam box. Tell the recipient to look there.

And expect all of this to change at a moment's notice, and for all of these to be banned again in a month or two.

[Col.Brandon]

The simple answer is that Hanmail thinks your message is spam. This is a much easier solution for the morons that pass themselves off as programmers here than designing an effective spam filter algorithm.

What they decided to do is allow a certain amount of messages per day through their, ahem, 'system', then once that limit is reached the dungeon doors come down and your message gets bounced. If you read the automatically generated error message it alludes to 'too much spam' coming from your e-mail host. That's it, pass the blame to the evil foreigners - typical Koreans. That's why your message sometimes gets through and sometimes doesn't.

I've had to resort to using Hanmail in order to communicate with my Korean contacts (if they don't have Yahoo or Hotmail), and it's causing me no end of headaches; interfaces that don't work, attachments that go missing, I can't read sent messages. Aeigo!

OK, rant over. Here's hoping the 21st century arrives here someday

[khyber]

i've heard from folks (prolly not true but....) hanmail has some kind of limit placed on hotmail accounts and yahoo accounts. I think they're under they're doing it to crack down on "all the spam coming to korea from hotmail accounts" or some stupid <beep> like that.

all speculation..

[Col.Brandon]

Khyber, isn't that what I just wrote in the post immediately before yours?

There must be an echo in here.

[Peeping Tom]

I have a hanmail account, and I still get plenty of spam - from other hanmail accounts.

If you try registering with Korean websites, probably about 50% or more allow you to type in any e-mail address you wish EXCEPT hanmail ones. They specifically write that hanmail accounts are not allowed.

I've heard rumors that it's because daum/hanmail is (or was) too big and perhaps not playing nicely, so other companies turned against it. Something like that, anyway.

[OiGirl]

Any ideas on e-mail accounts that will get past these filters? I'm not worried about Hanmail at present, so much as national university e-mail accounts.

So far, AOL, Yahoo! and two private workplace e-mail addresses from the US have had messages returned as spam. Hotmail and Eminem mail (don't laugh too hard--I'm getting desperate!) don't bounce, but don't seem to get through, either.

I'm trying gmail now, does anyone have any other bright ideas?

If I understand the posts above, is it possible to get through these filters, say, early in the morning?

[OiGirl]

gmail is bouncing now, too. Also correo.de.

[OiGirl]

gmail is bouncing now, too. Also correo.de.

[Cedar]

For as long as I can remember, but definitely since about 2000 this has been an on again off again problem. Somedays, sometimes it works, somedays it doesn't, I can never rely on it, gmail was doing okay for awhile, though. I try to tell every Korean who gives me a hanmail account not to hold their breath waiting for an email.

[Confused Canadian]

[nautilus]

a tip: you can check any email adress to see if it is valid here:

http://www.dimplesoftwares.com/EmailValidatorLiveDemo.aspx

If you've mispelled the adress or have a fake adress, it'll tell you. If its a valid adress and you've sent a mail, then they will have recieved it.