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Newbie

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 12:18 am Post subject: John Coltrane vs. Miles Davis |
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Yes, I'm bored and starting another music thread.
I think I'll be in the minority when I say that I prefer Coltrane, but what the heck. Davis in the 80's just scares the crap out of me. |
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Manner of Speaking

Joined: 09 Jan 2003
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 12:33 am Post subject: |
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| Oh, no question. I've learned more about music from listening to Miles Davis than from just about anything else I've encountered in my life. The man had about five musical careers in his life. |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 2:07 am Post subject: |
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Davis is clearly more important to the history of jazz and his birth of cool is my fav of the two artists
that said...
I've recently gotten into Coltrane in a big way and am impressed.
But if I had to choose just one... Miles all the way! |
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flotsam
Joined: 28 Mar 2006
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 2:10 am Post subject: |
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Let's cross threads: I prefer Coltrane, the Beatles and Radiohead, and I think the ill-est MC thread is a farce.
Other consolidations? Let's see if a pattern forms. |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 2:13 am Post subject: |
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| flotsam wrote: |
| I prefer Coltrane, the Beatles and Radiohead. |
I prefer Davis, Beatles and Red Hot Chili Peppers. |
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eamo

Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 2:58 am Post subject: |
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Coltrane and Davis are often compared, but, apart from a brief period in the early 60's when they actually played together, I never really heard much to suggest they should be compared.
For a start, different instrument!
Secondly, Coltrane died so soon after he really got going. He's kind of like the Hendrix of Jazz.
However, Davis went on to, as one poster said, have about 5 different careers.
Davis, through no fault of his own, also created the most annoying jazz genre. Fusion......aaarrrrgh!!!! Davis did it well on Bitches Brew as an experiment but it wasn't supposed to be flogged to death by dozens of boring muso's who wasted their great technical talent on dreary, unemotional dross.
For me, 'Jazz' was never better than A Love Supreme. Coltrane made the best jazz ever IMO, but Davis made a lot more great records than Coltrane.
It's a tie!! |
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Satori

Joined: 09 Dec 2005 Location: Above it all
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 3:20 am Post subject: |
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| Im a bit of a traditionalist when it comes to jazz, I prefer Charlie Parker to both of them! |
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Bo Peabody
Joined: 25 Aug 2005
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 10:34 am Post subject: |
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| VanIslander wrote: |
| flotsam wrote: |
| I prefer Coltrane, the Beatles and Radiohead. |
I prefer Davis, Beatles and Red Hot Chili Peppers. |
I got Davis, Stones and Red Hot Chili Peppers. |
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matthews_world
Joined: 15 Feb 2003
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Dr. John and his piano would give anyone a run for their money. Throw in Warren Zevon and Elvis Costello. |
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Rteacher

Joined: 23 May 2005 Location: Western MA, USA
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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(I liked "Dr. John" when he was the "Night Tripper" (Gris gris gumbo ya-ya...)
Based on my limited sampling of their respective work, I'll go with Coltrane. I think the first jazz album that I really got into was "OM" and it was a powerful cacophony of sound that at least tried to approach transcendence. I bought a couple more of his albums, and I was impressed by his versatility and wide range of expression displayed on tunes like "My Favorite Things" and "Welcome"...
I think that I bought only one Miles Davis album, that being "B1tches Brew" and I liked his controlled intensity and boldness. (I've read that he trained like a boxer so I reckon that he worked very hard to produce champion-caliber music...
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gypsyfish
Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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I can't count how many times I have tried to enjoy Miles Davis. Every time he released a new record I would buy it (late '60's on), listen, listen, listen, and I never got it. I really wanted to like his music because he clearly was an important musician. (And I played the trumpet.) I'm mostly talking about fusion jazz.
For trumpet give me Dizzy Gillespie, Maynard Ferguson, or, even, Doc Severinsen. |
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Nowhere Man

Joined: 08 Feb 2004
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 12:30 am Post subject: ... |
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Coltrane.
Similar to the Stones, I think there's a point where Davis should've stopped. See: Live at the Fillmore East.
There isn't any Coltrane I don't like, and A Love Supreme...is supreme.
That said, I love bossanova. Getz/Giberto.
That that said, I suppose I'm still in my top 40 stage of Jazz. I'd love to know some obscure gems. Who's been overlooked?
Oh, and from the other threads:
I was walking through Itaewon one morning and I heard it:
Bah Bah Bah, Bah Bah Ba-Nah
Bah Bah Bah, Bah Ba-Nah
It was Smoke on the Water done to a kind of Calypso beat on horns.
I immediately headed over to the Hamilton CD stand to inquire.
It was Senor Coconut. They rule.
And I am Coltrane, Radiohead, Beatles. |
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flotsam
Joined: 28 Mar 2006
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 12:35 am Post subject: |
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You SEE?
That's three for Coltrane, Radiohead and The Beatles.
Just had a feeling... |
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Greekfreak

Joined: 25 May 2003
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 1:20 am Post subject: |
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Miles by far.
Even his 'sub-standard' material was amazing, if you check out the odds 'n' sods collection "Get Up With It", the bonus tracks on the "In A Silent Way" box set, "Seven Steps To Heaven", "E.S.P.". |
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stumptown
Joined: 11 Apr 2005 Location: Paju: Wife beating capital of Korea
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 1:24 am Post subject: |
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| In his biography, Miles talks about meeting Hendrix and the two of them had planned to jam together for possible album. That would have been one interesting collaboration. |
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