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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 11:57 pm    Post subject: Those baby chicks Reply with quote

Grrr. What the hell is wrong with people that sell baby chicks to Korean school kids? What a great way to make a buck, slime bag.

I got a baby chick chirping away right now in the teacher's room.

What do your kids think they're actually going to do with a baby chick short of play with it for a couple days and then throw it in the trash after it likely dies of starvation and dehydration?
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red dog



Joined: 31 Oct 2004

PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I second that. Same with street/subway vendors peddling tiny puppies (weaned way too early?) and baby rabbits. ... It's totally irresponsible.
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wish they did that here..... those little darlings taste good.
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Hater Depot



Joined: 29 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not much difference between that and ordering a chicken sandwich.
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pet lover



Joined: 02 Jan 2004
Location: not in Seoul

PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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flotsam



Joined: 28 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pet lover wrote:
Hater Depot wrote:
Not much difference between that and ordering a chicken sandwich.


No kidding! Felt like applauding. Very Happy


You don't have to pluck a sandwich.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hater Depot wrote:
Not much difference between that and ordering a chicken sandwich.


In an ideal world, a chicken destined for the deep fryer lives something approaching an adult life, gets food/water, and is created with the noble end of being a nourishing drum stick. These chicks are created as throw away pets and subject to the whim of a child with no experience raising a farm animal. Even if we ate dogs, we'd still be horrified by puppies sold as disposable pets: cuddle your insta-puppy for two days and then toss it in the trash.
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pet lover



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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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flotsam



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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My earlier jab notwithstanding, Pet Lover, do you know that Wendell Berry essay that describes the lives of cattle raised for slaughter? That was a pretty horrifying read. I think you may know the title, and if you do, let us know.
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pet lover



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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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red dog



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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder if those baby chicks are unwanted "by-products" of the egg industry -- i.e., the brothers of the chicks who will go on to become egg-laying hens?

Warning: graphic content below

I'm not sure what the practice is in Korea, but in North America they often grind male chicks up alive because they have no economic value (or would have more value as fertilizer or some other product). I think it's a myth that animal agriculture can ever really be humane, but in any case I don't see this as a competition between it and the "disposable pet" industry. They're both disgusting, and in this case probably very closely tied to each other.
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pet lover wrote:
Have you ever done any research on just what kind of "life" chickens destined for the fryer "live"? I think that the baby chicks have got it better. I'd certainly take the quicker death lasting perhaps a few days (chick) over a "fryer" chicken.....months of torture.


You'll notice I prefaced my remarks with "an ideal world". I'm not saying the current state of the poultry industry is a model of human decency either.

Ultimately, we should not sell children disposable pets.

To wit, just because we execute murderers doesn't mean we should countenance murder in all its forms.
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JAWINSEOUL



Joined: 19 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I�ll have to agree with mindmetoo regarding the suitability of chicks as pets for kids. Since the untimely demise of her chick, my fiance is still hesitant around all pets. She was far too naive to care for it and ended up crushing the poor thing in her sleep.

While many adults see these chicks as �disposable,� their life and probable death does have negative consequences on the kids.
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Porter_Goss



Joined: 26 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 5:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Those baby chicks Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:
Grrr. What the hell is wrong with people that sell baby chicks to Korean school kids? What a great way to make a buck, slime bag.


Jerks setup shop right outside the front door... animals packaged in plastic bags, YEA!

"Is O-ma going to be happy when you bring a chicken home?"

"No..."
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this thread hasd taken a noble turn. In my town, the rage is hermit crabs. In just a few days, I am already seeing empty crab shells in the gutters. They have however, given me an opportunity to teach my kids about the value of life, and caring and nurturing creatures, big or small.


they still taste good.
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