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soju pizza
Joined: 21 Feb 2007
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 Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 7:27 pm Post subject: Daegu Polytechnic |
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The annual salary will be :
[drum roll please]
- 21,000,000 won for MA holders
Who the fack are they trying to kid? Is this a typo? If I got my M.A. on Kaosan Road, this would still be an insult.
But wait, it gets even better:
18,000,000 won for BA holders.
At least they offer you more money for your M.A.
That works out to 1.5 million a month. These people should be ashamed of themselves. I feel stupider just for having read that job ad. Bah. |
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TheChickenLover
Joined: 17 Dec 2007
Location: The Chicken Coop
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| Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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Some bloke will take the job just to get away from being a glorified babysitter. At least with this job they'll be able to chill in their office longer & not spend all that extra cash on booze trying to de-stress themselves.
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NightSky
Joined: 19 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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C'mon...
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| teaching 12 hours a week as basic class hours during Spring and Fall semesters |
It's not such a bad base gig, especially if you're an F2...you could easily supplement that with privates or even do a few evening hours at a haggie...
People here sometimes expect a ton of pay for not much work. |
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FUBAR
Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: The Y.C.
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| Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 5:59 am Post subject: Re: Daegu Polytechnic |
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| soju pizza wrote: |
The annual salary will be :
[drum roll please]
- 21,000,000 won for MA holders
Who the fack are they trying to kid? Is this a typo? If I got my M.A. on Kaosan Road, this would still be an insult.
But wait, it gets even better:
18,000,000 won for BA holders.
At least they offer you more money for your M.A.
That works out to 1.5 million a month. These people should be ashamed of themselves. I feel stupider just for having read that job ad. Bah. |
Make sure to send the person an email and let them know how you feel. |
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chronicpride
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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1.5 million/mnth + plus housing + paid summer and winter vacations for only 12 class hrs a week during spring and fall semesters? Teaching tourism english to college girls?
That's actually quite cushy. I can't believe people complain about gigs like that.  |
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anyway
Joined: 22 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 4:41 am Post subject: |
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1.5 million/mnth + plus housing + paid summer and winter vacations for only 12 class hrs a week during spring and fall semesters? Teaching tourism english to college girls?
That's actually quite cushy. I can't believe people complain about gigs like that. |
Actually, my university hired four people recently on similar terms and there are at least 2 others currently as well. I'd bet all hagwon or F series folks.
The strategy is to hire at a lower pay/fewer hours and then require 50% more hours on overtime at 6,000 an hour. Then they'll announce the mandatory camp after you arrive.... |
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aarontendo
Joined: 08 Feb 2006
Location: Daegu-ish
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| Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:07 am Post subject: |
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| Yeah that's what I basically assumed. 6000 an hour OT rate is a joke, anyone thinking that the school won't bend you over and take you for all you're worth at that rate is a fool. |
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chronicpride
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 6:47 am Post subject: |
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Ok, before we start painting a random university with a potentially unwarranted brush (whoops...too late), lets look at what they have posted for an ad:
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1. Daegu Polytechnic College in Daegu City Korea
( http://www.tpic.ac.kr) is looking for full-time English Instructors.
2. Those who want to apply for these positions :
- must be native speakers of English
- must have MA or BA and E1 or E2 Visa(English Major preferred).
- must have Teaching Experience at various English teaching institutes
3. Duties are :
- teaching introductory level of practical English and various levels of Tourism
English
- teaching 12 hours a week as basic class hours during Spring and Fall semesters
- active participation in college activities
- teaching overtime classes(with overtime pay according to the college regulations)
- teaching at the English Camps and various programs run by the college(with due payment)
4. The term of the positions will be :
- one year from March 2008 to February 2009
- renewable upon evaluation.
5. The annual salary will be :
- 21,000,000 won for MA holders.
- 18,000,000 won for BA holders.
6. Benefits are :
- Housing
- Personal Office
- Pension
- Medical insurance
- Paid summer and winter vacations
- Visa run money
7. All applicants should submit :
- their resume' with a recent photograph attached
- a Cover letter describing educational backgrounds, teaching experiences, research interests
- a copy of diploma
- a copy of transcript
8. Those on the interview list will be personally notified.
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Someone please point out where 6000won/hr overtime is mentioned or even implied. Hell, they don't even mention if overtime is mandatory or is just stated in the job overview.
You guys are needling a basic job overview as if it were a binding contract. Give it a rest.
Based on a read-thru of the job ad, the only advice that I'd offer is for applicants to ask to see the contract (obviously) to better understand the detail and scope of the job requirements, ensure that the overtime clause meets labor law standards, inquire about vacation length, and most importantly, talk to the current teachers and/or teacher whom you are being expected to replace to gain feedback on how the job plays out in reality. |
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anyway
Joined: 22 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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| chronicpride wrote: |
Ok, before we start painting a random university with a potentially unwarranted brush (whoops...too late), lets look at what they have posted for an ad:
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1. Daegu Polytechnic College in Daegu City Korea
( http://www.tpic.ac.kr) is looking for full-time English Instructors.
2. Those who want to apply for these positions :
- must be native speakers of English
- must have MA or BA and E1 or E2 Visa(English Major preferred).
- must have Teaching Experience at various English teaching institutes
3. Duties are :
- teaching introductory level of practical English and various levels of Tourism
English
- teaching 12 hours a week as basic class hours during Spring and Fall semesters
- active participation in college activities
- teaching overtime classes(with overtime pay according to the college regulations)
- teaching at the English Camps and various programs run by the college(with due payment)
4. The term of the positions will be :
- one year from March 2008 to February 2009
- renewable upon evaluation.
5. The annual salary will be :
- 21,000,000 won for MA holders.
- 18,000,000 won for BA holders.
6. Benefits are :
- Housing
- Personal Office
- Pension
- Medical insurance
- Paid summer and winter vacations
- Visa run money
7. All applicants should submit :
- their resume' with a recent photograph attached
- a Cover letter describing educational backgrounds, teaching experiences, research interests
- a copy of diploma
- a copy of transcript
8. Those on the interview list will be personally notified.
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Someone please point out where 6000won/hr overtime is mentioned or even implied. Hell, they don't even mention if overtime is mandatory or is just stated in the job overview.
You guys are needling a basic job overview as if it were a binding contract. Give it a rest.
Based on a read-thru of the job ad, the only advice that I'd offer is for applicants to ask to see the contract (obviously) to better understand the detail and scope of the job requirements, ensure that the overtime clause meets labor law standards, inquire about vacation length, and most importantly, talk to the current teachers and/or teacher whom you are being expected to replace to gain feedback on how the job plays out in reality. |
But you forgot 'hope like the pope on dope that what you hear is what you get'...
Binding contract, that's a good one... |
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DaeguKid
Joined: 09 Dec 2006
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 6:54 am Post subject: |
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I know the school, I know folks that work there...its one of the cushiest gigs going for Daegu. For those of you who say its not good, what are you doing now that this gig is not good? Welfare?
Oh and by the way, there are no camps with this school...at all! |
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soju pizza
Joined: 21 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 7:50 am Post subject: |
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Most of the decent university gigs I know of start around 2.2 to 2.5 million/month with housing of some kind at 12 hours a week (if not more).
A 1 million won/month difference is pretty big.
That's why I think this job sucks.
If that's one of the cushiest jobs in Daegu, then the job choices in Daegu aren't too hot. |
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lucas_p
Joined: 17 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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| soju pizza wrote: |
| Most of the decent university gigs I know of start around 2.2 to 2.5 million/month with housing of some kind at 12 hours a week (if not more). |
There might be a COUPLE like that in all of Korea, but then, I doubt many here would be qualified to teach those positions. More likely, for that money you are working 18-20+ hours, PLUS camp, and any other extra classes/prep they want you for.
You can choose: Work more hours, make more money, or work less hours, make less money. And this job gives you TONS of free time without ANY office/board politics whatsoever.
I also know people who work here, and I have a similar job. They are never bothered by higher-ups, they don't have to have office hours, they can do what they want with the ciriculum, the vacation is PAID, they get severance and trip bonuses, and they also get a lot longer break (4-5 months a year, again, should mention, PAID) than most uni jobs I see EVER posted. This allows them to fill in the free time with anything they want: more work, hobbies, or whatnot. |
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cruisemonkey
Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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| Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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| chronicpride wrote: |
1.5 million/mnth + plus housing + paid summer and winter vacations for only 12 class hrs a week during spring and fall semesters? Teaching tourism english to college girls?
That's actually quite cushy. I can't believe people complain about gigs like that. |
Actually, my university hired four people recently on similar terms and there are at least 2 others currently as well. I'd bet all hagwon or F series folks.
The strategy is to hire at a lower pay/fewer hours and then require 50% more hours on overtime at 6,000 an hour. Then they'll announce the mandatory camp after you arrive.... |
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aarontendo
Joined: 08 Feb 2006
Location: Daegu-ish
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| Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 5:53 am Post subject: |
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4 months paid vacation ain't so appealing when you're only making 1.5 for it...really eats into savings potential.
If someone is on an F visa or whatever, then yeah the work hours are low enough I suppose. |
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lucas_p
Joined: 17 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 7:01 am Post subject: |
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| aarontendo wrote: |
4 months paid vacation ain't so appealing when you're only making 1.5 for it...really eats into savings potential.
If someone is on an F visa or whatever, then yeah the work hours are low enough I suppose. |
E, F, or G, people will get extra work if they want it, legal or not. |
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