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Chavez to ban alcohol during Easter
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thepeel



Joined: 08 Aug 2004
PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 8:31 pm    Post subject: Chavez to ban alcohol during Easter Reply with quote
Wow. I thought Bush was a religious nut. This guy (Chavez) is just incredible.

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CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) - For beer and whiskey-loving Venezuelans, Easter this year won't be an alcohol-soaked drinking fest.

President Hugo Chavez has imposed a ban on alcohol sales during Holy Week in an attempt to reduce accidents and crimes, prompting a run on liquor stores.

The decree prohibits alcohol sales on Holy Thursday, Good Friday and Easter Sunday next week. A more limited ban, restricting sales to between 10 a.m. and 5 p.m., including at restaurants and bars, went into effect Friday and will last through April 9.

The sudden, unprecedented measure confused many Venezuelans who raced to stash up before Friday, thinking that would be their last chance to buy for more than a week.

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/2007/03/31/3880337-ap.html

Weird. All totalitarian systems go after the same things..
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huffdaddy



Joined: 25 Nov 2005
PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 9:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Chavez to ban alcohol during Easter Reply with quote
Welcome to the world of blue laws.
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Kuros



Joined: 27 Apr 2004
PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Chavez is giving Venezuela back to the poor!, BJWD. Don't you see, authoritarianism works as long as it promises to fulfill an ideology with which you agree!
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On the other hand



Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue
PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I don't really care one way or another about Chavez. However, I would like to draw attention to the selective outrage underlying this thread.

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A dry county is one whose government forbids the sale of alcoholic beverages in some form. There are hundreds of dry counties across the United States. About 18,000,000 people live in the 10% of the area of the US that is dry.



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Today, almost one-half of the counties in Mississippi are dry with their own prohibition against the production, advertising, sale, distribution, or transportation of alcoholic beverages within their boundaries. It is even illegal to bring alcohol through a dry county in Mississippi while traveling across the country in the process of, for example, moving a personal wine or spirits collection to one's new residence




http://www2.potsdam.edu/hansondj/Controversies/1140551076.html
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thepeel



Joined: 08 Aug 2004
PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
And I would like to point out the selective outrage of OTOH's selective outrage as Saudi Arabia is a dry country.
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I don't believe either BJWD or I were holding Mississippi up as an example. Both of our positions on the drug war are libertarian ones, we disagree with it. But the fact is that what Chavez is doing is a Current Event, whereas what was established in certain counties in Mississippi have been that way for a long time. Hence the term that huffdaddy used, blue law.
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Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005
PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
From one perspective, Chavez is not acting any more authoritarian/paternalistic than most other Latin American and Caribbean states. Chile, for example, forces everyone to stop drinking and go home early the night before any election, mobilizes the armed forces to secure/patrol the polling sites, and mandates that everyone must take the day off work or school and vote -- or risk penalties. (And still many evade.) In any case, this is culturally normal for this traditionally authoritarian/paternalistic region.

But from another perspective, the comparative perspective that On the Other Hand presents, if multiple American counties -- that is, apparently pious local govts -- decide "to go dry," then we can at least say that this is far more democratic than a Caribbean dictator randomly decreeing and imposing it from the national capital just because it suits him to do so this Easter...

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huffdaddy



Joined: 25 Nov 2005
PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Gopher wrote:
Chile, for example, forces everyone to stop drinking and go home before any election,


Liquor isn't sold in Argentina on election day as well.
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On the other hand



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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And I would like to point out the selective outrage of OTOH's selective outrage as Saudi Arabia is a dry country.


How is there selective outrage on my part? I didn't start this thread criticizing Saudi Arabia as a "totalitarian" country on the basis of their liquor laws.
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On the other hand



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I don't believe either BJWD or I were holding Mississippi up as an example. Both of our positions on the drug war are libertarian ones, we disagree with it. But the fact is that what Chavez is doing is a Current Event, whereas what was established in certain counties in Mississippi have been that way for a long time.


Yes, but BJWD said that Venezuela has a totalitarian system, as exemplied by their outlawing of liquor for a few days a year before Easter. And you appeared to agree with him. So I'm just wondering if you consider those Mississipi counties to be totalitarian as well.
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thepeel



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
On the other hand wrote:
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I don't believe either BJWD or I were holding Mississippi up as an example. Both of our positions on the drug war are libertarian ones, we disagree with it. But the fact i