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Junior
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 Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 2:40 am Post subject: Korean teachers and original ideas |
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In 4 years I have never seen a Korean teacher or co teacher come up with an ORIGINAL IDEA.
They either copy all my teaching ideas or just do what the book says. The amount of times i see koreans copying my activities, games, etc is insane.
How is it koreans think they are superior when they are unable to come up with a single original idea???? Its actually quite incredible  |
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ChuckECheese
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| Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 2:49 am Post subject: Re: Korean teachers and original ideas |
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| Junior wrote: |
In 4 years I have never seen a Korean teacher or co teacher come up with an ORIGINAL IDEA.
They either copy all my teaching ideas or just do what the book says. The amount of times i see koreans copying my activities, games, etc is insane.
How is it koreans think they are superior when they are unable to come up with a single original idea???? Its actually quite incredible |
They are programmed and taught that way. They have no creativity, initiative, originality, but they love to cheat and copy. |
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dmbfan
Joined: 09 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 2:56 am Post subject: |
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I agree............I have yet to come across one K-teacher who had some form of creative insight (insite?).
I remember, back in the hogwan trenches, K-teachers would always copy our ideas........................not even a "Hey Dmbfan, that was a good lesson. I think I'll use that in my class".
But, as they say, "imitation is the greatest form of flattery".
cheers.
dmbfan
P.S. But, I am not really flattered when an idea that I came up with, is taken without anything said. Honestly, I don't like it. Oh well. |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 3:07 am Post subject: |
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| dmbfan wrote: |
| I am not really flattered when an idea that I came up with, is taken without anything said. Honestly, I don't like it. |
me too.
I told the coteacher i would be charging her 10.000 won every time i saw her using one of my games. She didn't get it. I really think they see no shame in blatantly copying someones ideas or ripping off stuff. Honestly, if you tell them, it doesn't even register as something wrong.
The Korean philosophy is that the individual has no right to own their own idea. Everything is in the public domain and open to everyone.
I have in my notebook about 130 educational games and activities i have thought of over the years and found korean kids to enjoy. I'm thinking of publishing it in korean and selling it to the korean education system. It might finally break them away from their teaching method of endlessly dictating to kids in monotone.
But every school would probably just photocopy it!!! |
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dmbfan
Joined: 09 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 3:12 am Post subject: |
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| have in my notebook about 130 educational games and activities i have thought of over the years and found korean kids to enjoy. |
A sign of a good teacher. Good for you man. It is wise to keep EVERY game, worksheet, or printout that you have done. It makes a good resource arsenal, and you always have a back up plan if you have a lesson go bad.
Kudos!
Cheers.
dmbfan |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 3:26 am Post subject: |
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And the stupid, infernal, never ending DINNERS!
(Which I have long since stopped going to).
Get a new idea for pitys sake!
Go for a walk in the park or something! A movie! Anything.! Just something ORIGINAL!! |
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ddeubel
Joined: 20 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:06 am Post subject: |
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Junior,
I see you still don't have an original idea. Still trying to sell gross generalization and spite as intelligence.
I will copy your inane scribblings and show them to my Korean teachers (students). They can reply in kind.
I am in many, many more Korean classrooms than yourself and discuss much, much more about teaching and classroom delivery with Korean teachers than yourself. What you say is just wrong and you are wearing grey tinted glasses.
Sure, many aren't too creative (but this comes with English not being their mother tongue and the associated difficulties of confidence and curriculum knowledge) but a lot of native speakers are just doing the same thing also.....
Try looking at the world from a different angle than your rabid categorization and crouch. Stand on a desk or tilt your head.....and if you still see things as you do, just move into a house of mirrors and out of Korea.
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dmbfan
Joined: 09 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:45 am Post subject: |
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No, I don't think he is wrong.
I have YET to meet one Korean teacher, out of my four years here, who has one original thought (other than how to manipulate, cheat, or screw someone) about teaching English.
The hogwan K-teachers I worked with either did NOTHING, or copied ideas from the foreign teachers. The public schoo teachers I work with, think that repeating and memorizing the table of contents in their pathetic books is the ideal plan...............................
So, I stand by the O.P. on this one. Are there any original thinking Korean teachers? Possibly, but I have yet to see one.
Cheers.
dmbfan |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:12 am Post subject: |
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| ddeubel wrote: |
I will copy your inane scribblings and show them to my Korean teachers (students). They can reply in kind. |
Do clarify what it is you're threatening me with before i get the mods and more involved. And be aware we all know your full contact details.
What riles me is how koreans will copy every idea then claim it as their own, and then claim some sort of cultural superiority. You see it everywhere from designer labels, ripped off music, right down to the classroom. Having stolen a new idea, they then run wild with it and overdo it like a kid whos new bicycle is broken within a week.
2 weeks back I introduced a new game in class to exercise a specific conversational exchange. Now my co teacher uses it every lesson, and will probably still be using the same game if I walk into her class in 10 years time.
My previous teacher i made the mistake of using a music download site and printing up a lyrics gap fill for the kids to sing to. Within hours she had turned the classroom into her own noraebang, playing songs that had no english value over and over every lesson just to hear the sound of her own voice. It only ended when I sabotaged the sound system (a few switches i knew but she didn't).
Every other month you hear koreans playing over and over, endlessly, the same pop song blatantly copied from a western artist decades before. Is there any copyright? Every christmas they play santa claus is coming to town a 100 times a day until several people have commited suicide. Change the record!
I don't deep down blame koreans for their lack of originality- their culure has other strengths to compensate. but i do think they should admit where they get their ideas from and start acknowledging the west rather than bad mouthing it at every opportunity out of some sort of inferiority complex. They owe America, the west and its ideas.. just about everything. |
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sniperteam6
Joined: 08 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:11 am Post subject: stuff |
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I'd be the first customer. I teach Koreans only in Thailand and could use more Korean=centric tools.
Good luck
| Junior wrote: |
I have in my notebook about 130 educational games and activities i have thought of over the years and found korean kids to enjoy. I'm thinking of publishing it in korean and selling it to the korean education system. It might finally break them away from their teaching method of endlessly dictating to kids in monotone.
But every school would probably just photocopy it!!! |
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