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cbeck13
Joined: 29 Dec 2006
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 Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 12:43 am Post subject: $500 for one night in N. Korea...give me a break |
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| i can't believe people buy into these trips arcoss the border that go to some resort in the mountains. i was just checking out the adventure korea summary of the trip. its $370 without the shows, dinners, lunch, and hots springs admission. one night you sleep on a dang bus and then you stay at a resort run by chinese people for one night. some experience! i just can't stand it when people pay insane amounts of money just to say they did something. not to mention, who the hell knows where your money is going? i've talked to people who say,"it was so worth it because the mountains were so beautiful." we have mountains in south korea, thanks. |
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Vicissitude
Joined: 27 Feb 2007
Location: Chef School
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 1:09 am Post subject: |
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| Nevermind about the money. I'd be more concerned about my safety and being abducted. It's not an unreasonable concern. N. Korea has a long history of abducting citizens from S. Korea, Japan, America etc. I'd sooner visit Myanmar, Iraq or Sri Lanka. |
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Richard Krainium
Joined: 12 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 1:14 am Post subject: |
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you know what really pisses me off? it's those god dang "space tourists"! who the hell do they think they are spending $20 million just to fly around in a fancy airplane for a week, so they can say "hey, look what i did". i mean we have airplanes on earth, too and who knows where that money went to. geez the nerve of some people.  |
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endo
Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 1:20 am Post subject: |
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| Vicissitude wrote: |
| Nevermind about the money. I'd be more concerned about my safety and being abducted. It's not an unreasonable concern. N. Korea has a long history of abducting citizens from S. Korea, Japan, America etc. I'd sooner visit Myanmar, Iraq or Sri Lanka. |
Uhhh, no it's actually quite an unreasonable concern. There's billions of dollars invested in that resort and abductions would be pretty bad for buisness.
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 1:29 am Post subject: |
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| endo wrote: |
| Vicissitude wrote: |
| Nevermind about the money. I'd be more concerned about my safety and being abducted. It's not an unreasonable concern. N. Korea has a long history of abducting citizens from S. Korea, Japan, America etc. I'd sooner visit Myanmar, Iraq or Sri Lanka. |
Uhhh, no it's actually quite an unreasonable concern. There's billions of dollars invested in that resort and abductions would be pretty bad for buisness. |
Has North Korea abducted people before? Was the business built? Has the business succeeded? Do some people ignore the past? Are some people ignorant of the past? Do some people say to themselves, "Oh, that will not happen to me?" Is it possible that abductions would not really harm business? "Shhh... What abductions?" |
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endo
Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 1:38 am Post subject: |
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| Real Reality wrote: |
| endo wrote: |
| Vicissitude wrote: |
| Nevermind about the money. I'd be more concerned about my safety and being abducted. It's not an unreasonable concern. N. Korea has a long history of abducting citizens from S. Korea, Japan, America etc. I'd sooner visit Myanmar, Iraq or Sri Lanka. |
Uhhh, no it's actually quite an unreasonable concern. There's billions of dollars invested in that resort and abductions would be pretty bad for buisness. |
Has North Korea abducted people before? Was the business built? Has the business succeeded? Do some people ignore the past? Are some people ignorant of the past? Do some people say to themselves, "Oh, that will not happen to me?" Is it possible that abductions would not really harm business? "Shhh... What abductions?" |
Do you really think the North Koreans would abduct a tourist from the Diamond Mountains?
I understand they're an irrational regime in many facets, but I mean come on man, Pyongyang is making a nice set of coin from this operation. Americal dollar bills y'all!
They are desperate for Greenbacks and would risk it by kidnapping a western tourist from it primary tourist attraction. |
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mehamrick
Joined: 28 Aug 2006
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:02 am Post subject: |
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| endo wrote: |
| Real Reality wrote: |
| endo wrote: |
| Vicissitude wrote: |
| Nevermind about the money. I'd be more concerned about my safety and being abducted. It's not an unreasonable concern. N. Korea has a long history of abducting citizens from S. Korea, Japan, America etc. I'd sooner visit Myanmar, Iraq or Sri Lanka. |
Uhhh, no it's actually quite an unreasonable concern. There's billions of dollars invested in that resort and abductions would be pretty bad for buisness. |
Has North Korea abducted people before? Was the business built? Has the business succeeded? Do some people ignore the past? Are some people ignorant of the past? Do some people say to themselves, "Oh, that will not happen to me?" Is it possible that abductions would not really harm business? "Shhh... What abductions?" |
Do you really think the North Koreans would abduct a tourist from the Diamond Mountains?
I understand they're an irrational regime in many facets, but I mean come on man, Pyongyang is making a nice set of coin from this operation. Americal dollar bills y'all!
They are desperate for Greenbacks and would risk it by kidnapping a western tourist from it primary tourist attraction. |
I could be wrong on this, but I thought I read where Americans weren't even allowed a visa to go in the country. And do you think South Koreans would really care if an American tourist got abducted there??
Found this.. http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_988.html#special
I don't think your getting one very easy if you can.. |
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jaganath69
Joined: 17 Jul 2003
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:14 am Post subject: |
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| Real Reality wrote: |
| endo wrote: |
| Vicissitude wrote: |
| Nevermind about the money. I'd be more concerned about my safety and being abducted. It's not an unreasonable concern. N. Korea has a long history of abducting citizens from S. Korea, Japan, America etc. I'd sooner visit Myanmar, Iraq or Sri Lanka. |
Uhhh, no it's actually quite an unreasonable concern. There's billions of dollars invested in that resort and abductions would be pretty bad for buisness. |
Has North Korea abducted people before? Was the business built? Has the business succeeded? Do some people ignore the past? Are some people ignorant of the past? Do some people say to themselves, "Oh, that will not happen to me?" Is it possible that abductions would not really harm business? "Shhh... What abductions?" |
A non-link post from RR, man, its like watching a statue of the Virgin Mary P1ss beer; a farkin miracle! |
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endo
Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:29 am Post subject: |
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And do you think South Koreans would really care if an American tourist got abducted there??
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Of course, it would make front page news and the tour operation would likely shut down.
It'd be an international incident. |
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endo
Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:29 am Post subject: |
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| jaganath69 wrote: |
| Real Reality wrote: |
| endo wrote: |
| Vicissitude wrote: |
| Nevermind about the money. I'd be more concerned about my safety and being abducted. It's not an unreasonable concern. N. Korea has a long history of abducting citizens from S. Korea, Japan, America etc. I'd sooner visit Myanmar, Iraq or Sri Lanka. |
Uhhh, no it's actually quite an unreasonable concern. There's billions of dollars invested in that resort and abductions would be pretty bad for buisness. |
Has North Korea abducted people before? Was the business built? Has the business succeeded? Do some people ignore the past? Are some people ignorant of the past? Do some people say to themselves, "Oh, that will not happen to me?" Is it possible that abductions would not really harm business? "Shhh... What abductions?" |
A non-link post from RR, man, its like watching a statue of the Virgin Mary P1ss beer; a farkin miracle! |
I was thinking the same thing.... |
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Lizara
Joined: 14 Apr 2004
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:31 am Post subject: |
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So much misinformation on this thread it's unbelievable...
okay, the Geumgangsan area is a "special tourist zone". Americans can go with no trouble. in fact, the currency of choice is either American dollars or South Korean won.
secondly, who are you to judge people's motivations in going somewhere? Not everyone goes on one of these things just to say they've been to North Korea. in fact, that area hardly even counts as North Korea.
thirdly, those mountains are far more beautiful than any I've seen in Korea. I haven't been to Seoraksan, though.
fourthly, everyone who goes is registered as part of a tour group, and I'm guessing most people have friends or family back home who know where they went and who they went with and might, just possibly, notice that the last time they saw or heard from their friend was just before they went to North Korea. That would lead to some questions and I don't think any tour group, let alone Hyundai who runs the place, wants that kind of publicity.
and fifthly, so you don't want to spend 370000 for a weekend in Geumgangsan. Fine. Obviously enough people do that these tours are flourishing. I don't see why this is always such a controversial topic. In any case, it's been covered a few times already on this board. |
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Ilsanman
Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:35 am Post subject: yes |
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| Yeah, they prefer US dollars, since it makes it easier for them to launder counterfeit bills that NK has been producing. |
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captain kirk
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:48 am Post subject: |
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| 8 full sentences from Real Reality. That was an historic moment. It might not happen again for another five years. |
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endo
Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:52 am Post subject: |
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| 8 full sentences from Real Reality. That was an historic moment. It might not happen again for another five years. |
And it was all in response to my smart azz reply.
I feel so special! |
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mehamrick
Joined: 28 Aug 2006
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 3:12 am Post subject: |
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| Lizara wrote: |
So much misinformation on this thread it's unbelievable...
okay, the Geumgangsan area is a "special tourist zone". Americans can go with no trouble. in fact, the currency of choice is either American dollars or South Korean won.
secondly, who are you to judge people's motivations in going somewhere? Not everyone goes on one of these things just to say they've been to North Korea. in fact, that area hardly even counts as North Korea.
thirdly, those mountains are far more beautiful than any I've seen in Korea. I haven't been to Seoraksan, though.
fourthly, everyone who goes is registered as part of a tour group, and I'm guessing most people have friends or family back home who know where they went and who they went with and might, just possibly, notice that the last time they saw or heard from their friend was just before they went to North Korea. That would lead to some questions and I don't think any tour group, let alone Hyundai who runs the place, wants that kind of publicity.
and fifthly, so you don't want to spend 370000 for a weekend in Geumgangsan. Fine. Obviously enough people do that these tours are flourishing. I don't see why this is always such a controversial topic. In any case, it's been covered a few times already on this board. |
Are you sure you don't need a visa as an American? I have never been so I don't know.. I am just reading what the U.S. State Department is saying and that says you have to have a visa to go into North Korea. Special zone or not.. Again I haven't been so I don't know if this is enforced or not. |
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