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crazy_arcade
Joined: 05 Nov 2006
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 7:43 pm Post subject: Fair Trade Coffee at Homeplus |
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Just want everyone to know that you can now buy Fair Trade coffee from Nepal at Homeplus locations. It comes in 200 g black bags with green lettering. It's not amazing coffee, but decent enough. However, by buying it you help ensure farmers receive a fair price for their product.
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eamo

Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 8:56 pm Post subject: Re: Fair Trade Coffee at Homeplus |
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crazy_arcade wrote: |
Just want everyone to know that you can now buy Fair Trade coffee from Nepal at Homeplus locations. It comes in 200 g black bags with green lettering. It's not amazing coffee, but decent enough. However, by buying it you help ensure farmers receive a fair price for their product.
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I'm all into that. I'll check that out.
I downloaded a great 3-part documentary series called 'Black Coffee' which was excellent at showing how fair trade coffee works and how without it whole economies can collaspe.
How are Starbucks these days for Fair Trade? I think they make an effort. Whether it's because of PR or because they actually care.......? |
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crazy_arcade
Joined: 05 Nov 2006
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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As far as I know Starbucks doesn't go by international standards for "fair trade." They have their own system set-up I believe. I used to have a few friends that worked at Starbucks in uni and I would often get the spiel from them. Starbucks certainly has a lot of PR about how good thier relationships with farmers are and so forth. I have no idea about any details though. |
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kotakji
Joined: 23 Oct 2006
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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I dont think Starbucks could successfully rely on the established Fair Trade regime. While its a great idea when talking about your everyday decent beans- the regime doesnt do much to distinguish between different quality of beans. As far as I know it only distinguishes between subspecies Arabica and Robusta (sp?) as far as pricing goes.
Thats not to say Starbucks isnt trading fairly with the producers though. Though what one person considers fair another may not.
*Edit* I pulled out a article I read in grad school about the issue again- seems a major part of the problem is that Starbucks actually pays the farmers more per unit for their beans then the FT regime does to insure quality. |
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sojourner1

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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I get this Hikkoka coffee at Homeplus in a 7 ounce sea green bag. They grind the beans there for you and it's really good gourmet Columbian coffee. |
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crazy_arcade
Joined: 05 Nov 2006
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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sojourner1 wrote: |
I get this Hikkoka coffee at Homeplus in a 7 ounce sea green bag. They grind the beans there for you and it's really good gourmet Columbian coffee. |
Yup, but is it fair trade? That's the only reason I posted this. |
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sojourner1

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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Yea, it's a fair trade for my won! LOL. |
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oni
Joined: 15 Jun 2004 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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There's also an organic/fair trade cafe chain called Cafe Des Verts.
I haven't been to one yet
www.cafedesverts.com
They also have organic chocolate
there are branches in Yeoksam, Dongbu Icheon, Mokdong (in Hyundai Dept store), Cheongdam.
anyone been to one???? |
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crazy_arcade
Joined: 05 Nov 2006
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:02 am Post subject: |
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oni wrote: |
There's also an organic/fair trade cafe chain called Cafe Des Verts.
I haven't been to one yet
www.cafedesverts.com
They also have organic chocolate
there are branches in Yeoksam, Dongbu Icheon, Mokdong (in Hyundai Dept store), Cheongdam.
anyone been to one???? |
Good to know, thanks!
Does anyone know of any organic bakeries/cafes? I know there is 1 or 2 vegan bakeries so there must be some good organic bakeries, right? |
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Hairy Jim
Joined: 06 Jan 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:53 am Post subject: Fairtrade |
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I used to do campaigning work for Fairtrade in the UK (before I ditched my morals at immigration), does anyone know if there's anything like that going on in Korea? |
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oni
Joined: 15 Jun 2004 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:06 am Post subject: |
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www.beautifulstore.org
they sell some fair trade stuff and is a kind of recycling/used goods store.
Don't know if they do campaigning work per se. There's info on their website about volunteering |
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mack4289

Joined: 06 Dec 2006
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:44 am Post subject: |
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So is Fair Trade really good for anyone beside the farmers? Think about it: Starbucks or whoever pays an above market price to these farmers, obviously using a currency that's stronger the currency of the farmer's country. That takes more of the farmer's currency off the market and so the value of that currency goes up. When currency values go up, that country's exports get more expensive. Normally this is the sign of a healthy economy in which the citizens are becoming consumers as well as producers. But in the case of Fair Trade products, it's only a sign that some well meaning importers are paying above market prices for some of that country's exports, thereby hurting the competitiveness of that country's exporters. Is there something I'm missing here? Doesn't this seem like a likely consequence of Fair Trade? |
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crazy_arcade
Joined: 05 Nov 2006
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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mack4289 wrote: |
So is Fair Trade really good for anyone beside the farmers? Think about it: Starbucks or whoever pays an above market price to these farmers, obviously using a currency that's stronger the currency of the farmer's country. That takes more of the farmer's currency off the market and so the value of that currency goes up. When currency values go up, that country's exports get more expensive. Normally this is the sign of a healthy economy in which the citizens are becoming consumers as well as producers. But in the case of Fair Trade products, it's only a sign that some well meaning importers are paying above market prices for some of that country's exports, thereby hurting the competitiveness of that country's exporters. Is there something I'm missing here? Doesn't this seem like a likely consequence of Fair Trade? |
I have no idea about the validity of this as I'm not an economics major. How do you know that, let's say, Starbucks is paying in a stronger currency and not local currency (yes, it's most likely US currency). Does it really take more of the local currency off the market in any case? These people are feeding their families, sending their kids to school, buying new tools for work....all things they would be doing with local currency.
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Starbucks or whoever pays an above market price to these farmers |
I might be reading too much into this but it would appear that you're not into the fair trade scheme.
Let's not forget that the market price for coffee is nowhere near the actual value of the commodity because of distribution control. |
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jaganath69

Joined: 17 Jul 2003
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:08 pm Post subject: Re: Fairtrade |
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Hairy Jim wrote: |
I used to do campaigning work for Fairtrade in the UK (before I ditched my morals at immigration), does anyone know if there's anything like that going on in Korea? |
The whole country is built on protecting inefficient markets whilst gaining entry to the rest of the world. You should campaign for fair trade here by insisting that we no longer pay $6 for 2 kilos of rice so that cranky old farmers from the Chollas can get loaded on Soju and pig trotters or take junkets to anti WTO meetings in Hong Kong where they beat up the police and then claim ignorance of local laws. |
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jaderedux

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Lurking outside Seoul
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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crazy_arcade wrote: |
As far as I know Starbucks doesn't go by international standards for "fair trade." They have their own system set-up I believe. I used to have a few friends that worked at Starbucks in uni and I would often get the spiel from them. Starbucks certainly has a lot of PR about how good thier relationships with farmers are and so forth. I have no idea about any details though. |
Starbucks pays over market price for coffee they buy. They also spend more on insurance for their employees than they do on coffee. They make money but they have a pretty good record on the human side of their business.
Jade |
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