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The_Conservative
Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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 Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 10:10 pm Post subject: Why Do They Stay? |
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(Inspired by several recent threads)
There are a number of people on here who claim that Koreans give them a rough time or they've had a rough time in South Korea. Beatings, being choked, assaults, verbal abuse, forced to take drug tests...and the list goes on.
Yet these people still stay and sign on year after year.
Why is that?
Are they unemployable back home?
Can they not go back (fleeing the police, child support)?
What do you think?
Seriously what drives people to stay here after all that?
Is money so really important? If it is than stop whining. You've made the decision that money is more important than your physical and mental health. It's like someone signing up for the army and then whining about being shot at.
Personally I think most of these are greatly exaggerated or at least somewhat embellished in a way designed to make the OP look better.
Note: This is not a "if you don't like it go home post" This is a "If you are repeatedly attacked here, why would you stay?"
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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| My guess is they had it worse back home, and although it sometimes seems like they've forgotten that, they prefer to stay here and vent. |
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reactionary
Joined: 22 Oct 2006
Location: korreia
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Job and girlfriend keep me here even though I strongly dislike the place, although it really didn't start until a couple of months into a new contract.
Definitely not unemployable back home, but it seems people my age out of even good universities just work 8 hours a day at an insurance company with limited potential, then finally end up back in school after working into a deadend.
Plus, I suppose it's a bit of comfort. I've been here over a year and a half, and I've gathered moss. I would really like to move on, and we'll see what happens when I go home after I finish my contract, try to get a job with the government, and see if my girlfriend kills me for not returning to Korea. |
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cbclark4
Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan
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| Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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reactionary
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Tokki1
Joined: 14 May 2007
Location: The gap between the Korean superiority and inferiority complex
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robertmanicni
Joined: 16 Oct 2006
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| Let's face it, with the (un)employment situation back home, how many of us can go back and earn, save and spend as much as we can here? |
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samd
Joined: 03 Jan 2007
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The assault stories are either exaggerated or complete B.S. or the "victim" is a troublemaker.
I suspect the OPs in these latest nonsense threads have an axe to grind. Trying to stir up anti-Korea hate because they're having a tough time.
Hopefully not too many people fall it, and start walking around scared, because there's no need. It's just so safe here. |
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Tokki1
Joined: 14 May 2007
Location: The gap between the Korean superiority and inferiority complex
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| Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 4:07 am Post subject: |
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| samd wrote: |
The assault stories are either exaggerated or complete B.S. or the "victim" is a troublemaker.
I suspect the OPs in these latest nonsense threads have an axe to grind. Trying to stir up anti-Korea hate because they're having a tough time.
Hopefully not too many people fall it, and start walking around scared, because there's no need. It's just so safe here. |
What a f'ing joke. Why would ANYONE make up stories like that?
The irony is that trying to be honest about personal assaults in Korea only bring about hostility and disbelief by the expat community.
I'm disgusted. |
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yingwenlaoshi
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!
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| Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 4:22 am Post subject: |
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(Inspired by several recent threads)
There are a number of people on here who claim that Koreans give them a rough time or they've had a rough time in South Korea. Beatings, being choked, assaults, verbal abuse, forced to take drug tests...and the list goes on.
Yet these people still stay and sign on year after year.
Why is that?
Are they unemployable back home?
Can they not go back (fleeing the police, child support)?
What do you think?
Seriously what drives people to stay here after all that?
Is money so really important? If it is than stop whining. You've made the decision that money is more important than your physical and mental health. It's like someone signing up for the army and then whining about being shot at.
Personally I think most of these are greatly exaggerated or at least somewhat embellished in a way designed to make the OP look better.
Note: This is not a "if you don't like it go home post" This is a "If you are repeatedly attacked here, why would you stay?"
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Why ask why? Looking for a fight? Always seems that way with you.
Don't worry. Just put the clown suit on after your shower tomorrow morning and you'll forget about all your problems. It's been a long time since you've dressed up in your proper attire. Come out of the closet for good this time.
You'll feel better after giving up your denial. |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 5:58 am Post subject: |
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| I would think that a high percentage of the stuff post here is over done, if not complete hyperbole. |
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Tokki1
Joined: 14 May 2007
Location: The gap between the Korean superiority and inferiority complex
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| Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 10:08 am Post subject: Re: Why Do They Stay? |
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| The_Conservative wrote: |
(Inspired by several recent threads)
There are a number of people on here who claim that Koreans give them a rough time or they've had a rough time in South Korea. Beatings, being choked, assaults, verbal abuse, forced to take drug tests...and the list goes on.
Yet these people still stay and sign on year after year.
Why is that?
Are they unemployable back home?
Can they not go back (fleeing the police, child support)?
What do you think?
Seriously what drives people to stay here after all that?
Is money so really important? If it is than stop whining. You've made the decision that money is more important than your physical and mental health. It's like someone signing up for the army and then whining about being shot at.
Personally I think most of these are greatly exaggerated or at least somewhat embellished in a way designed to make the OP look better.
Note: This is not a "if you don't like it go home post" This is a "If you are repeatedly attacked here, why would you stay?" |
"The Conservative", being fair and reasonable, has written this post with limited poll options in order to flame me for a post I wrote late last night after careful deliberation. As usual, he is merciless and gives no thought to what OP's have to say; he simply digs away without regard to what his fellow expats may have experienced.
He does not listen: he is ignorant. No "wow man, it's really sh1tty that those things happened to you". It's all negative.
Maybe it's time you asked yourself why you're here.
My favourite quote: "Is money so really important? If it is than stop whining. You've made the decision that money is more important than your physical and mental health.. WTF are you talking about? At no point did I EVER make a decision to take a paycheck over my mental and physical health. I've survived here quite well, and I'm generally happy. Sometimes, though, this place gets to me. And you do a hell of a lot more whining than most posters here, Conservative.
Comparing life in Korea to joining the army and being shot at
ROFL
The 'post' you're referring too wasn't embellished in any way, nor was it fabrication or hyperbole. In fact it was toned down.
'Exaggeration', 'embellishment' or 'impossible'! Fact is, these things didn't happen to you. But they did happen. These are not things a person makes up.
I could write a long, lucid post about all the great things that have happened to me here too. Thing is, recent events have my head spinning. Heh...why would I expect support on an expat site for Korean teachers. How ridiculous. Eh?
So taking the advice of a few friends and a few people I've observed becoming disgruntled on these forums because of a ridiculous tendency for certain people to flame the living *beep* out of people, I'll stick to topics like 'Led Zeppelin reuniting' or 'where are open mics in Seoul' because--clearly--many posters here are unable to accept any negative Korean experiences by long-term expats like myself.
So, Mr. Conservative. Why am I still here? It's not because of legal issues back home. And I'm not on the run for debt or whatever pinko corner your blue chip fascist brain may have painted me into. Despite the crap I've seen and been through here, I'm still a resident and I still have ties here. I have a job and a girlfriend and a lifestyle that I enjoy. It's the isolated incidents--the most recent in particular--that have me questioning things at times.
Yes, sometimes I wonder why I stay. I'm sure I'm not the only one.
I suppose it's hard to understand how certain things can happen to people here (call it dumb luck), but the fact remains that these things happened and they didn't happen to you. So show some compassion. Erm...oops forgot who I was responding to.
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The assault stories are either exaggerated or complete B.S. or the "victim" is a troublemaker.
I suspect the OPs in these latest nonsense threads have an axe to grind. Trying to stir up anti-Korea hate because they're having a tough time.
Hopefully not too many people fall it, and start walking around scared, because there's no need. It's just so safe here. |
Not sure whether to laugh or cry at this one.
Ok keyboard warriors, flame away. 
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twg
Joined: 02 Nov 2006
Location: Getting some fresh air...
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| Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 10:13 am Post subject: |
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| I would think that a high percentage of the stuff post here is over done, if not complete hyperbole. |
It's not a good fish tale without exaggeration. |
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Tokki1
Joined: 14 May 2007
Location: The gap between the Korean superiority and inferiority complex
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| Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 10:24 am Post subject: |
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| I would think that a high percentage of the stuff post here is over done, if not complete hyperbole. |
It's not a good fish tale without exaggeration. |
Speakin of fishin', you're pretty good at trollin'--judging by the posts you've made. Short, sweet and pathetic.  |
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yingwenlaoshi
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!
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The_Conservative =
"I'm right and you're wrong. So na na na na na. You made a mistake. See! Look! Ha ha! You didn't notice that! Weeeeeeellllll, it may have no bearing on anything! So there! Don't make fun of public schools! My insecurity will show! Then I'll get angrier!!!! The anger, defiance, and denial will make me stronger and feel like a true, respected, and accomplished member of Korean backwater society!!! Because that's important!!!"
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