Site Search:
 
Speak Korean Now!
Teach English Abroad and Get Paid to see the World!
Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index Korean Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Teachers from Around the World!"
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Good Luck Tommy

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Current Events Forum
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Tony_Balony



Joined: 12 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:32 am    Post subject: Good Luck Tommy Reply with quote

Tommy Thompson was a greatly underrated presidential candidate and a spark of hope for the US. He was a Republican but didn't come with Moral Majority type baggage so we were free from subsequent related dumb issues. He wasn't a workaholic, we was an effective-a-holic. His 4 terms as governer were scandal free and brutally effective. He is also charisma free. He didn't shy from complex, unattractive or substantial issues. Our bad judgement, our bad.

Quote:
After a sixth-place finish in Saturday’s Iowa Straw Poll, Tommy Thompson, the four-term governor of Wisconsin and former secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services, said he was ending his presidential bid.

Mr. Thompson’s campaign issued a statement tonight confirming his decision to drop out of the race:

“I want to thank the people of Iowa who were welcoming and supportive as well as my volunteers and contributors from around the country,” Mr. Thompson said in the statement. “I have no regrets about running. I felt my record as Governor of Wisconsin and Secretary of Health and Human Services gave me the experience I needed to serve as President, but I respect the decision of the voters. I am leaving the campaign trail today, but I will not leave the challenges of improving health care and welfare in America.”
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
stevemcgarrett



Joined: 24 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tony Balony:

I'm guessing from the Oscar Meyer's luncheon meat and your interest in Thompson that you're from Wisconsin, since OM is based in Madison? (I love and miss OM cold cuts--especially "Old Fashioned Loaf").

Tommy was a good, solid governor, as you know elected to office four times. He spearheaded welfare reform, which later became the model for the Clinton Administration after Gingrich and the '94 Congress nudged him to see the light. He is not an idealogue, as you correctly observed.

But he has little charisma, which is almost necessary to become president in the media sound byte age. I rooted for him as a favorite son but felt from the get-go that the prospect was bleak.

Wisconsin hasn't had a viable presidential candidate since Bob LaFollette on the Progressive Party ticket back a century ago.

Senator Russ Feingold fancies himself in this role but it ain't going to happen. He's divorced, nasty at times, and too partisan, though admittedly very bright
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Tony_Balony



Joined: 12 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevemcgarrett I have to compliment you on yet another excellent post Steve. All good on all points. Feingold isn't going anywhere. He went on a few exploratory introductions trips to red states but was not well recieved.


Yes, OM is Madison is a based company and to be honest, I can't think of any other baloney companies. Thats credit to OM's weinermobile ad campaign and catchy song.

Quote:
Oh, I wish I were an Oscar Mayer wiener
That is what I truly want to be
'Cause if I were an Oscar Mayer wiener
Everyone would be in love with me.


I'm not sure if I really approve of my avatar because I feel OM products are inducive to overeating and contribute to America's obesity epidemic.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
sundubuman



Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: seoul

PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think the state of Wisconsin, nor the country for that matter, not to mention the world at large....

was quite ready for a cheesehead-in-chief....

Maybe in another couple generations people can imagine a Wisconsinite as President.....maybe....
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
stevemcgarrett



Joined: 24 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sub:

I know you're comment was made half in jest but the cheesehead thing was started by rabid Green Bay Packer fans years ago and quickly caught on as a form of fun and self-deprecation, something East Coast snobs (not saying you're one) could learn from.

At the risk of being overly defensive, Wisconsin has one of the finest public school systems in America, consistenly ranks first in SAT scores, and is home to one of the top universities in the world in Madison.

So we're hardly a bunch of hayseeds.

In fact, I think the country desperately needs a true Midwesterner at the helm (Reagan came from small town Illinois but was too influenced by California). Midwesterners are known for common sense and a level-headed opinion of themselves. Eisenhower and Truman were both from the Midwest. Need I say more?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
keane



Joined: 09 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 12:01 am    Post subject: Re: Good Luck Tommy Reply with quote

Tony_Balony wrote:
Tommy Thompson was a greatly underrated presidential candidate and a spark of hope for the US. He was a Republican but didn't come with Moral Majority type baggage so we were free from subsequent related dumb issues. He wasn't a workaholic, we was an effective-a-holic. His 4 terms as governer were scandal free and brutally effective. He is also charisma free. He didn't shy from complex, unattractive or substantial issues. Our bad judgement, our bad.

Quote:
After a sixth-place finish in Saturday�s Iowa Straw Poll, Tommy Thompson, the four-term governor of Wisconsin and former secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services, said he was ending his presidential bid.

Mr. Thompson�s campaign issued a statement tonight confirming his decision to drop out of the race:

�I want to thank the people of Iowa who were welcoming and supportive as well as my volunteers and contributors from around the country,� Mr. Thompson said in the statement. �I have no regrets about running. I felt my record as Governor of Wisconsin and Secretary of Health and Human Services gave me the experience I needed to serve as President, but I respect the decision of the voters. I am leaving the campaign trail today, but I will not leave the challenges of improving health care and welfare in America.�


For a Republican, he was better than most, but not even close to Ron Paul. His stance on stem cells was good; Roe v. Wade, poor.

Stance on gay issues? Extremely poor.

Crime? Mixed.

Education? Terrible.

Energy? Mixed.

Families and children? Pretty good, from what I could find.

Government? Not bad. Too little info.

Health Care: mixed. Doesn't go nearly far enough.

Taxes? Horrid.

I don't know. Not sure we lost a gem here. I will say, again, that of the Republicans, he stands out from most.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Current Events Forum All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


This page is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling.
Contact Dave's ESL Cafe
Copyright © 2018 Dave Sperling. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group

TEFL International Supports Dave's ESL Cafe
TEFL Courses, TESOL Course, English Teaching Jobs - TEFL International