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missdaredevil



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:17 pm    Post subject: on your behalf? Reply with quote

What do call the person who you assigned to do a job for you on your behalf?

If I have to do apply for a class, but I will be absent during the application period. I give my rights(?) to a person to complete that for me.

What is that called?
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CP



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That person is your proxy. You can enroll by proxy, be tried and sentenced by proxy, even get married by proxy.

For certain things, in the U.S.A., at least, you need to give written permission to the person to act as your proxy. Then he or she is your attorney-in-fact, acting under authority of a general or limited power of attorney.

An attorney-in-fact is not the same as an attorney-at-law (lawyer), and does not need any special training. The attorney-in-fact can do anything on behalf of the principal so long as it is within the scope of the power of attorney -- buy and sell property, decide whether to give or withhold medical treatment, or whatever may be important to the person.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CP wrote:

An attorney-in-fact is not the same as an attorney-at-law (lawyer), and does not need any special training. The attorney-in-fact can do anything on behalf of the principal so long as it is within the scope of the power of attorney -- buy and sell property, decide whether to give or withhold medical treatment, or whatever may be important to the person.


What about power of attorney?
The dictionary definition is to make decisions and act on behalf of somebody else.
Is the person a proxy or a lawyer?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:06 am    Post subject: power of attorney Reply with quote

a proxy could be a lawyer in that case. a power of attorney could also be a sibling, a spouse, a cousin, a son or daughter, or a close friend, for a few examples.

Americans don't use the word proxy on a regular basis. it seems to me that the word proxy is used more in legal terminology.

proxy may also be used in taking a a written test in school, but i don't know the exact explanation that would help you. i would suggest that it means that someone would read the test to you and you write down the answers.

wow! i'm impressed with your research! great job, once again! iitimone7
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CP



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The person who supervises an examination in school is a proctor.

The power of attorney is the power to act as someone's proxy. The document that you sign to make someone your attorney-in-fact / legal proxy is also called a power of attorney. The proxy can do only those things that the power of attorney authorizes him or her to do.

The legal proxy / attorney-in-fact does not have to be an attorney-at-law (lawyer), and in fact, most proxies are not lawyers.

I hope that clears that up.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can I say "she is my proxy for school minor(as in Spanish minor) application"?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 5:11 am    Post subject: proxy Reply with quote

she is my proctor who will proxy my exam, but that's a little redundant.


she is my proctor

she will proxy my exam
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does that mean "a person who has my permission to act on my behalf" so that she "applied for the course" for me?

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Sorry if I made it confusing.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Suzie has permission to sign up for the course in your stead / in your place / on your behalf, Suzie is your proxy, and you enroll in the course by proxy.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iitimone, I think you might be suffering a momentary brain freeze. I don't see how "proxy" relates to a proctor of an exam or proxying an exam in any way. Maybe my own brain is frozen at the moment?
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