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learner12



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 2:32 am    Post subject: by? Reply with quote

Hello, teachers!!

Laughter is harder to measure. Therefore, the medical impact of humor is not a new concept in medicine. During the 14th century, Henri de Mondeville, professor of surgery, advised, "The doctors should make sure that there is joy and happiness in the patients' lives, allowing their relatives and special friends to cheer them, and by having someone tell them jokes."

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, allowing their relatives and special friends to cheer them, and by having someone tell them jokes.
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Why do you need "by"? Do you definitely need it?

Thank you in advance.
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Eric Thompson



Joined: 25 Nov 2006
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Location: Angeles, Pampanga, Philippines

PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear learner12: You have a valid question, or point. You don't really need that 'by', since there is no 'by' preceding 'allowing'. So, in the name of parallelism, you don't need it. Likewise, you could put "by's" in front of both 'allowing' and 'having'...But, actually, when I first read your passage, I didn't notice anything wrong...It's a small problem. Ok?--Eric Smile
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learner12



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Eric Thompson:

Thank you so much for your language expert's explanations. I learned a new thing.

Have a nice day!!
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