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tisogai



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:34 pm    Post subject: those/ones Reply with quote
Please help;

Children in the U.S lag behind (those) in Japan in math.

I think "those" is the right answer and "ones" is not. But I just probably got that from experience and can't explain why.

Would you please explain why "those" is right and "ones" isn't.

Thanks.
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Bob S.



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 11:12 am    Post subject: Re: those/ones Reply with quote
tisogai wrote:
Children in the U.S lag behind (those) in Japan in math.

I think "those" is the right answer and "ones" is not. But I just probably got that from experience and can't explain why.

Would you please explain why "those" is right and "ones" isn't.
Those is a demonstrative pronoun often used when the objects or groups being compared are distal (far from each other) in physical space or in concept or idea. Children in the U.S. are definitely physically far from children in Japan. Ones is often used if the children are all mixed together in the same general location and are not separated in concept yet.
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tisogai



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks so much for the good explanation, Bob S.

Would it be possible for me to get an example sentence with "ones" from you??

Thanks so much.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
tisogai wrote:
Thanks so much for the good explanation, Bob S.

Would it be possible for me to get an example sentence with "ones" from you??

Thanks so much.

There are 100 students participating in today's activities. The ones born before July will get a red name tag. Those born after June will get a blue name tag.

Take this bushel of apples. Throw away the ones with brown soft spots. Those remaining will be made into pies.
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