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What was that famous cynical statement by Benard Shaw?

 
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Yoshiyuki



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:20 pm    Post subject: What was that famous cynical statement by Benard Shaw? Reply with quote

Would anyone kindly help me?
I have been wondering what was that famous cynical statement that Bernard Shaw was supposed to make in order to oppose the belief that a Good English sentence should use a preposition + relative pronoun instead of separating a preposition and a relative pronoun,leaving a preposition at the end of a sentence. I heard he had just tried to show the absurdity of the rule and the result sentence he came up with.
Thank you in advence.
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Lorikeet



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Answered your question in the "Learning English" forum.
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Yoshiyuki



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you very much, Lorikeet, for your quick and precise reply. That really helped me.
I would like to tell you the reason I asked the question. The other day I came across the following sentence and it took me a while to figure out the meaning.
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The national flags of the countries of which the players are citizens are being put up.

I wonder if native speakers of English can easily get the meaning of this sentence.
Thank you again, Lorikeet.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, it is understandable, but a bit awkward. It would be easier to make it an active sentence, like "They are putting up the flags of the countries of which the players are citizens." (If "they" fits in there. If not, can says something like "the people in charge" or "the organizers of the event" or whatever.)
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lotus



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think commas might help in this case:

The national flags of the countries, of which the players are citizens, are being put up (raised).

But I think the idea of making the sentence active is even better.



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