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SAMUEL_LYNN



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Location: Xiayang High School.Nanping,Fujian

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 1:26 am    Post subject: often see somebody do or doing? Reply with quote

It taks me at least 1 or 2 hours to search the Internet for the illustrations everytime I want to get a convincing answer.You can't imagine that,many times,I got so mad that I want to axe down most of all the English teachers in China because they insist that do is right while doing is wrong here.Put in often see him playing and search yahoo you will get many sentences like On walks with my daughter, I would often see him playing with the other children in our little town.Macadamia loves toys, and we often see him playing tug-of-war with his brother, Pecan. You can often see him playing with and spinning around the little boys and girls. You will often see him playing with toys all by himself.We would often see him playing tennis with his wife,  Sabina, for some relaxation late in the afternoon after a hard day's work.You'd often see him playing ball with them in the backyard.You often see him playing in the clouds above.and so on.Those who insist that only I often see you play basketball during the summer holiday is acceptable give us a ridiculous reason that often modifies play instead of see.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a native speaker from the UK I would say that both are correct.

I see him play or see him playing.

I think that there is a very slight difference in meaning which is from how the action is viewed from the point of the speaker.

If the speaker sees the action as a completed action then it will be play, if it is the action in progress then it will be the gerund (-ing form)

Hope this helps
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SAMUEL_LYNN



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Location: Xiayang High School.Nanping,Fujian

PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:06 pm    Post subject: often see somebody do or doing? Reply with quote

teacherBob wrote:
As a native speaker from the UK I would say that both are correct.

I see him play or see him playing.

I think that there is a very slight difference in meaning which is from how the action is viewed from the point of the speaker.

If the speaker sees the action as a completed action then it will be play, if it is the action in progress then it will be the gerund (-ing form)

Hope this helps

Search this link on the Internet:http://www.usingenglish.com/forum/threads/32141-quot-see-sb-doing-something-quot-vs-quot-see-sb-do-something-quot
A smart guy explains below
I saw her playing a tennis match. [part of the process]
I saw her play a tennis match. [the entire thing]
I heard him proposing to her. [part of the conversation]
I heard him propose to her. [the entire conversation]
Do you think that he really saw or heard the whole courses of the match and the conversation,i.e.from beginning to end,or he saw and heard only a part of those courses and yet assumed that he did the wholes?


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SAMUEL_LYNN



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Location: Xiayang High School.Nanping,Fujian

PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 8:19 pm    Post subject: Re: often see somebody do or doing? Reply with quote

SAMUEL_LYNN wrote:
teacherBob wrote:
As a native speaker from the UK I would say that both are correct.

I see him play or see him playing.

I think that there is a very slight difference in meaning which is from how the action is viewed from the point of the speaker.

If the speaker sees the action as a completed action then it will be play, if it is the action in progress then it will be the gerund (-ing form)

Hope this helps

Search this link on the Internet:http://www.usingenglish.com/forum/threads/32141-quot-see-sb-doing-something-quot-vs-quot-see-sb-do-something-quot
A smart guy explains below
I saw her playing a tennis match. [part of the process]
I saw her play a tennis match. [the entire thing]
I heard him proposing to her. [part of the conversation]
I heard him propose to her. [the entire conversation]
Do you think that he really saw or heard the whole courses of the match and the conversation,i.e.from beginning to end,or he saw and heard only a part of those courses and yet assumed that he did the wholes?
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SAMUEL_LYNN



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

teacherBob wrote:
As a native speaker from the UK I would say that both are correct.

I see him play or see him playing.

I think that there is a very slight difference in meaning which is from how the action is viewed from the point of the speaker.

If the speaker sees the action as a completed action then it will be play, if it is the action in progress then it will be the gerund (-ing form)

Hope this helps

First,thank you so much indeed for your help.I presume you are a master of English,but you didn't give an explicit interpretation.By completed do you mean you see the action from any moment in the middle of course till the end of the course or from the beginning till the end?[/i]
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