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[doodlekate]

Do you believe in Aliens? In my opinion, I don�t believe in Aliens for 3 reasons. First, nobody can prove the truth of Aliens. There is no photograph to confirm that there are Aliens on the Earth. I also know that nobody can exacly tell that they have met Aliens before. Someone saw Aliens and took photographs of them but it was just a plane. Second, I have never seen Aliens. Sometime, I look up to the sky but I have never seen something wrong in the dark sky. I have never seen the clear photo of UFO or Aliens. For example, I saw the metallic thing that is sparkling in the sky. It was a plane. Finally, I think everything is nature fact. The sighs might be heppen from nature fact. At night, the stuff light in the dark sky might be the light of some star. Therefore, I don�t believe in Aliens because I don�t have clear and real information about Aliens. Do you believe in Aliens?

[Dordi]

I agree with you. Even though I have seen some weird things, I actually can't prove they would've been aliens. Neither I have found no real evidence of existing aliens, so I don't really believe in them.
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[pakoul]

Do I beleive ?

My answer is Yeah I do
I'm pretty sure there is places somewhere in other galaxy where you can live.
the wheather like our planet.

the world is very huge,vast to confirm that there is no other area that all condition is like ours

[bmjns]

In the space have a lot of the stars. Which it may be to have a living being to life on some star. Now the scientist is educated about other stars. Now technology can educate to delicate. In the future we may be to find the animate live on the other stars out off the world.
In my opinion I believe about the Alien because in the space it a big more and more which it can separated too many galaxies, the owner world it is all star in one galaxy with it have an animate to live. It is human and animal Thus I think about the alien. It may be to have in the other star and galaxy, the data of the any body they are discovery about the Alien. It is a possible to have. Which if we looking in the fact of the each paragraphs, we will to know about the Alien, since the ancient human they can find the alien.
The reason for I selected this forum because it interesting very much for me. The Alien I believe it real have in the space.

[Bob S.]

I think you are dealing with 2 separate questions. They are:

1. Do you believe there is life on other worlds in space (maybe in our galaxy, maybe in some other galaxy)?

and

2. Do you believe that intelligent life has visited our world?

The OP seems to be asking #2. Many posters are answering #1.

[Gilles Bellemare]

Many people say that they have never seen clear pictures of alien bodies and UFO's. I have clear evidence, on my website, that aliens and UFO's exist. Just click on this link to visit my UFO website.

http://groups.msn.com/UFOphotoalbum

Please don't judge the aliens just because they are different. The ones that come here are peaceful and they come to visit and help our civilization to understand the universe and to prove that life exists somewhere else. So don't panick....

[manifold]

Hello!
This topic was the first one to catch my eye in the forum, so I decided to register to write in what I think on this matter.

Although that topic on existence of aliens is as old as the hills and the question is asked again and again parrot-fashion, the fact that it is asked still again on this forum proves it to be not worn out completely...and it is in fact a good sign...Although rejecting the idea, that aliens exist, we still bear a doubt deep in our minds, that we could one day prove the converse for ourselves through an unexpected personal experience...Unfortunately, there is nothing else to do but wait until the circumstances make us change our minds...One should therefore stick to the following assumption: "Nothing is impossible!"...All in all, in the long run, we'll just have to talk about that as we get the chance to do so.

As for me, I would like to take the chance and tell the whole world that I believe in aliens!
Bob S. made it clear that we are dealing with two questions here...
As for the first one, I am more than sure there are inteligent species somewhere in the universe, because the world is large enough for other intelligent life forms to be created by chance...though it is clear that the probability for this to happen is very small, but it is never equal to zero. According to Drake's formula, for example, there should be a few civilizations in our galaxy, which might be ready to get in contact with us, and there are enough mathematical models, based on probability theory, which produce clear results, expressed in numbers...According to these results, there might be at least 200000 intelligent life forms in observable universe...You know, I am one of those who believe in the power of mathematics and physics.

As for the second question, I would not except the possibility that an intelligent life form has ever been on our planet. If I take recent research results in theoretical physics, the theory of miltiple histories and parallel worlds for instance, I tend to claim, that one should not reject the possibility of an alien visit to the Earth (in fact, there should be even more life forms than estimated, because we have perceived only one single universe so far - ours). Civilizations outside our universe could have become more advanced than us, so that they are now able to overcome the borders of their own world. They should have their own time and history. Their science and technology could have reached a level, which is advanced enough to do things we now claim to be possible only in science-fiction...I know, it all really sounds like science-fiction...But what if part of this is true?!

The problem is that people nowadays tend to exaggerate things and stories about meetings with aliens are often put to use in business and entertainment, so we cannot tell truth and lie apart.

The idea of existence of aliens is based on human intuition and imagination. As we know, Demokrit and other ancient scientists once claimed that the world around us is made of atoms, but nobody believed them at that time, because they had no proof for that. Then the time came and their idea proved to be right...So what if the same happens with aliens someday?!

I will be thankful for your comments.
Manifold
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[Gilles Bellemare]

Dear Manifold,

There are many clear pictures of UFO that have been taken over the years. The problem is that you have to find them which is not always easy. The alien file is being kept secret from the population for very strange reason hardly understandable by intelligent people. Please have a look at thi website to see some clear pictures of flying saucers and alien bodies: http://groups.msn.com/UFOphotoalbum

[manifold]

I've got some questions.
Are these photos authentic? Were they taken by people you know personally and whom you wouldn't judge to have had an intention to mislead the public?
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[Gilles Bellemare]

Since when pictures are not authentic. Just go back to my website and put your glasses on, you might discover something

http://groups.msn.com/UFOphotoalbum

These pictures come from all over the world. If you think that everybody is crazy, then you should look at yourself first.

[manifold]

You know, I think there is no place for rudeness and condescending behaviour in this forum, nor, hence, there is place here for crude and foul-mouthed people...If you were taught to talk in such a way, go to an eastern bazaar to speak your mind!
Don't let your swear-word private messages show up in my inbox anymore!
If you continue to curse and send rubbish to my PM-box, I'll contact the administrator!
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[Gilles Bellemare]

Just like you said, this is not a place for rude private message. Since you're the first to send me an insane private message, make sure that you don't send me another one or else I'll contact the administrator too.

[manifold]

I told you not to send messages anymore, but you still did it at once (Last warning: Keep away from my PM-box!)...Now let's put it clear, it was you who started this mess...Although your first message was shorter, it was insane and rude enough to write an equivalent...My questions concerning the pictures of UFO didn't have any negative intentions (Is nobody allowed to be sceptical today?), and there was no reason to write a reproachful PM-message as an answer (If it's not reproachful, why didn't you place it in the forum then?)...So, please, do not present yourself with a nimbus!...
And now let's put an end to all that!
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[MaxX7]

i think the story about aliens is true
and i believe that aliens do exist not in this galaxy but may be in any other galaxy
may there is a planet which is too similar to earth may be the living beings there are somewhat same to us
i mean that can happen
can't it?
well i think there are alien maybe not those who can walk and talk
but there can be living organisms may be the environment they need is totally diffrent for us we cant live there but they can.
you know what i guys i'll give you the perfect answer when im old enough to go in space and reveal its secrets
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[Gilles Bellemare]

First, to ask me if I knew all the people who took these pictures was quite negative and ridiculous on your part. I was quite sure that your intentions were to put down my website. And it is quite exactly what you are doing with your private messages. You tell me that I am uneducated since I don't study in Cambridge like you. Well, as I told you, I am an engineer who has his two feet on the ground and I can see with good and clear eyes. I don't need to study in Cambridge, where the truth belongs, to know what's going on in this world. You can tell your educated friends that all these pictures are authentic. Have a good day !