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[Chris]

After a swift "Blitzkrieg Bop" the forces of the new empire have got in Baghdad without any major problems. Indeed, like in the first "Gulf War" before which we'd been told that Saddam had the fourth strongest army throughout the world; in this conflict, where was the Iraki army? Nowhere, a dozen years of stringent restrictions emphasized by the UN and mainly backed by the USA have made the rest. Sometimes, certain actions are more disastrous than conventional weapons. So, where are the weapons of mass destruction that the French, Germans and Russians and even the Chinese are supposed to have sold to this regime of terror? Why, fortunately, haven't they used them to create an impact of power and propaganda especially towards their inhabitants in a last attempt to save their failing administration? In fact, they merely hadn't the means to accomplish it. Of course, the allied will discover "a few" things that could be hazardous whether it was held in wrong hands (Al Qaida for instance). By the way, where are the involvements of Saddam in the dreadful events of 09/11 like a certain American press has expressed it recently?

Is the game over? Certainly not, another battle is now on the way. The first struggle should be to establish again the "Law & Order" but Mr Whitelaw will have to face the situation of a collapsed state in which some former "cleaned collaborators" will reappear without any doubt. I've read that the country could be cut up into three regions to try to decentralize the problems and respect the "ethnic" situation of Irak. This action could last less than a year under the direct control of several former generals, administrators, businessmen very close to the current US Republican administration. The second field is going to be the humanitarian aid towards these populations and I think the real fight could be here. If, you guys, you achieve to solve the issue of the people's plight, reorganize this nation to set up a popular sovereignty in a muslim country; which I personally consider as IMPOSSIBLE because of the ancient customs which are a huge antagonism towards a liberal state: I will be the first to say WELL DONE.

But in fact, it would be an ideal world: you will be obliged to stay a longer time there, considered by the most nationalists as colonialist forces. Also, good luck with the Shiites who are a major "party" in this country especially when one of their moderate representative has just been murdered. For the "NEW EUROPE" (Germany, Belgium, Russia and France), let's stay outside this mess or only act within the UN. It's not necessary to spend any cent there since with the results of this war we are naturally sacked from the economical process. Let's leave Messrs Wolfowitz (this man should think twice before speaking when you know that the States need one billion euro per day to finance their deficit; therefore how are you gonna pay it without the "Old Europe" if you are decreasing your taxes at the same time?), Rumsfeld, Perle and consorts (the US religious extreme right) who are the real winners of this conflict to see their real skill and aim in this process. Normally, they ought to be like fish in water in this area........So, Good Luck America

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Blitzkrieg Bop / The Ramones (1976)
Babylon's Burning / The Ruts (1979)

[Chris]

So, guess what's gonna happen next year for the American religious plutocracy? Will they stay in or will they go out?? When the American Caesars and Israel will stop playing with all bigoted jerks around the world (Jihad, Hezbollah and the most racists "dominators and sure of themselves" orthodox jews in the West Bank and Gaza Strip); now, they're even acting with the former stalinists (as Saddam the small) newly tagged as Polish liberals in Irak.

Still another nail in the European building and General Jaruzelski must laugh a lot but he's not the only one especially in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan the actual cradle of the new tyranny responsible of 09/11

Also, do not believe "Citizen Kane" and his professional liars for the new PRAVDA (Fox) run by a former leninist who sold his soul to Maggie's soup and think tank at the beginning of the 80's. At least, the boomerang is coming back at a very rapid pace, as a rocket, and it might be named the "Democratic Party"........

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"Law And Order"/ Stiff Little Fingers (1978)
"Memories" by Raymond Aron: perhaps the greatest French philosopher of the 20th century (1983)