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You always agree to war, or it depends?

 
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numlock



Joined: 10 Jun 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2004 4:08 am    Post subject: You always agree to war, or it depends? Reply with quote

Do you think you should attack the other countries, it they don't agree with your country.

Do you think there is a "Right War" in this world ?

Do we have the right to kill someone? or The nation has it ?

I have no idea why people kill each other. Can your country kill people for your national gain? You will say that is right ? You think that you have only to live yourself ?

I want to listen to someone's opinions who agree to war.

I also ask some.

If you disagree to war, can you insist on saying "no war" even if all around people agree to war.

Or

If you agree to war, can you insist on saying " the only way is to war " even if all around people disagree to war.
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liebe



Joined: 16 May 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 8:52 am    Post subject: Re: You always agree to war, or it depends? Reply with quote

I answered each of your questions below:

numlock wrote:
Do you think you should attack the other countries, it they don't agree with your country.

No.

Do you think there is a "Right War" in this world ?

yes, when it's a nation's only way to survive.

Do we have the right to kill someone? or The nation has it ?

as a self-defense measurement, yes.

I have no idea why people kill each other. Can your country kill people for your national gain? You will say that is right ? You think that you have only to live yourself ?

No.

I want to listen to someone's opinions who agree to war.

I also ask some.

If you disagree to war, can you insist on saying "no war" even if all around people agree to war.

yes, but that might endanger your life.
Or

If you agree to war, can you insist on saying " the only way is to war " even if all around people disagree to war.


yes, but your opinion probably won't affect others.

you can always say what you want.
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mkg1211



Joined: 09 Sep 2004
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Location: Cairo,Egypt

PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear friends
i think it depends

Why?


i'll give u an example
people in sinai,jolan(syria),jordan awake as a result of hearing bombing and destruction
what happened?
israel launch war agaist them?
immmmm
israel chose the wrong decision as there is no logical reason for this unfair war except some verses in taorah (jews hloy book)and ambitions of extension

of course this is wrong
or to take oil like in iraq

but when i launch war to take my right like what egypt had done to take Sinai back is the right decison

i think i could show what i want to say
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asterix



Joined: 26 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose they don't teach you, in your totalitarian state, that the Arabs have tried to annihilate the jews since time immemorial, and at least three times since the re-establishment of the modern DEMOCRATIC state of Israel.
If I were an Arab I'd be embarrassed to admit that 300 million of my people couldn't win a war against 4 or 5 million jews.
I guess Allah thinks it's a bad idea.
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mkg1211



Joined: 09 Sep 2004
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Location: Cairo,Egypt

PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WOW

i think u have a good brain wash
What is yr laundry Razz
i'm just joking


oh mr asterix

i will reply u point by point

Quote:
in your totalitarian state

may be my country for some extent not the paradise of democracy but democracy doesn't a permission to commit massacres and occupying others' territories

Quote:
annihilate the jews since time immemorial


what a fake Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation
plz read any fair book about the treatment of muslims towards jews
even their fair writings and i will try to bring u some
and our war is against zionist not against jews or their religion
we are against colonization and taking what's not yours
and we have many actors who gain a lot of fame who were jews and had jew minister b4 their immigration to israel
i will suppose that u don't know ,not that u wanna decieve people


re-establishment

OH MY GOD

i think this word needs a topic (soon mr)
but as a quick tip
what happens if red indians (people who appeare in western movies riding horses and killed by americans)who are is the people of america ,gathered and killed americans and want to regain their country Shocked
and there are a lot of examples in the whole worlds
as a result of this princible Egypt should take her historical right to take the sudan and palestine and some parts of libya

Ha Ha Ha Ha
very funny
of course Egypt can't do so
also zionists sholdn't have taken what isn't theirs


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If I were an Arab I'd be embarrassed to admit that 300 million of my people couldn't win a war against 4 or 5 million jews

u are really funny what a black comedy
Egypt won a war against israel in oct 6,1973
=who said arab fought israel ,really they fought american weapons used by israel

300 million
immm
the only countries who fought israel are Egypt and syria who fought to regain their lands

and in 1984 there was a war to free palestine

http://www.palestine-info.co.uk/am/publish/
this site will be for some extent helpful

Quote:
I guess Allah thinks it's a bad idea

U make fun of my religion ,God
God forgive u
thank u for being civilized
i hope the administartor delet this unrespectable sentence

love,peace
MKG
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mkg1211



Joined: 09 Sep 2004
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Location: Cairo,Egypt

PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

watch
Quote:
the modern DEMOCRATIC state of Israel
deeds
http://www.palestine-info.info/arabic/palestoday/dailynews/2004/sep04/7_9/photo.htm
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asterix



Joined: 26 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Give it up mkg.
Your state IS totalitarian.
"Zionists" is merely an Arab code word for Jews. And a jew is someone who belongs to a religion called judaism, so you WERE at war with people of a different religion
I guess they teach you, in your totalitarian state, a different version of history than that generally accepted as being the truth.
However, I have seen with my own eyes that the Arabs attacked Israel and got beaten every time. I agree that the last time it was close, but Egypt lost - that's why Israel still holds territory that used to belong to Egypt.
We are not talking about the native people of North America, so your "red indian" comment is a red herring. We are talking about Israel, which belonged to the Israelis at least 2000 years ago (although it was under occupation by the Romans).
The Egyptians used Russian weapons, so your excuse about the Israelis using American weapons won't wash. It was the Israelis and the Egyptians and the Syrians who actually fought the war.
I am not making fun of your religion. I am dead serious about it. It is a threat to peace and stability in the world because it has been hi-jacked by fanatics, who murder children on buses in Israel and in schools in Russia, in hospitals, and at sporting events, in aircraft and while they are at work.
These are well-known facts, so I suggest you look in the mirror to see who has been brainwashed.
And Israel IS democratic. Look up the meaning of the word.
There is not one democratic state in the entire Arab world.
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mkg1211



Joined: 09 Sep 2004
Posts: 262
Location: Cairo,Egypt

PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

B.L.

ok let's continue the discussion
But plz reply my points Cool
not just keep spreading lies Wink
and i don't depend on school books Laughing
i depend on respected reports and books
not my Grandma's tales Cool
i will give u the complete account of the truth if u want to know
very soon
but plz i hope u can reply not just bomb red herrings

about the native americans(killed by the barbarians)
this is something called simile ,i hope u had taken it in school,to clearify the point

as for my government
I don't agree with on MANY MANY things
for many Egyptians,this government is completely american

man,i am not a representative of the government

wait for my Full Reply
SOOOOOOOON

Note:it will be just true facts ,sorry for people who wants lies Wink
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mkg1211



Joined: 09 Sep 2004
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Location: Cairo,Egypt

PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Asterix said
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Give it up mkg.
Your state IS totalitarian.
"Zionists" is merely an Arab code word for Jews. And a jew is someone who belongs to a religion called judaism, so you WERE at war with people of a different religion
I guess they teach you, in your totalitarian state, a different version of history than that generally accepted as being the truth.


i hope u have the ability to click on the the last site above


http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/

do you think that Arab creat it Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing ?
MKG

N.B. this site was imported by JL
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/student/viewtopic.php?p=18610#18610
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mkg1211



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/opposition/cannonfodder.htm
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