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hela
Joined: 02 May 2004 Posts: 420 Location: Tunisia
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Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 11:03 am Post subject: progressive + adverbs of frequency |
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Dear teachers,
1) Is it true that the progressive aspect when used with adverbs of frequency like always, forever, eternally, perpetually, continually, constantly, repeatedly may express either
� emphasis or approval.
ex: I am always hearing strange stories about him. (stative verb ?)
Those children are continually getting into trouble.
(emphasis or disapproval ?)
He is always reading. She is always helping people.
She is indefatigably / untiringly helping people.
(approval or disapproval ?)
I was always hearing strange stories about him.
Those children were continually getting into trouble.
or
� disapproval, reproach or complaint.
ex: Our burglar alarm is forever going off for no reason.
He is always snoring in his sleep.
He was always snoring in his sleep.
2) And is it true that both the simple present / past and the progressive can express a bad habit ?
ex: I always lose my keys = I am always losing my keys.
(same meaning ?)
He always works late at the office = He is always working late at the office. (?)
Do you have other (or better) examples for me please ?
I look forward to hearing from you soon.
Best regards,
Hela |
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helen1
Joined: 24 Nov 2004 Posts: 115
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 6:29 am Post subject: |
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Hi Hela,
Looking at your examples:
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ex: I am always hearing strange stories about him. (stative verb ?)
Those children are continually getting into trouble.
(emphasis or disapproval ?) |
Both adverbs of frequency here are adding emphasis to the feeling expressed by the speaker. It is how the speaker is feeling. - The approval/disapproval can be 'felt' but is not inherent in the use of the adverb.
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He is always reading. She is always helping people.
(approval or disapproval ?) |
Again the adverbs are adding emphasis of how the speaker views the situation - both of these could be said with approval or disapproval - (always can in this way be seen to be a neutral adverb) - it depends on the speakers view of the situation so therefore the intonation and context would give the meaning. Using for example 'forever' He is forever reading, she is forever helping people indicates more of a negative reaction
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She is indefatigably / untiringly helping people. |
We wouldn't use adverbs indefatigably or untiringly here.
Indefatigable - (adjective) - never giving up/stopping even when tired
Untiring - (adjective) - continuing at the same rate without loss of energy or enthusiasm
Neither of these are not as common in adverb form as adjective (although untiringly is more common than indefatigably)
I believe untiringly is only used as a 'sentence adverb' i.e. qualifying the whole sentence (I'm not sure why so any experts out there -could you give a reason)
- we could say 'she is untiring in helping others' (adj), or 'she helps people untiringly'
Although I'm not 100% certain - I believe indefatigable is used mainly in a literal sense and within a very small range of situations e.g.
- he indefatigably fought to beat the epedemic
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I was always hearing strange stories about him.
Those children were continually getting into trouble.
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� disapproval, reproach or complaint |
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Again the adverbs here are adding emphasis to the speakers feelings - continually does carry a feeling of annoyance but if the sentence were said with a smile and a shake of the head, it would not be interpreted as disapproval - as with most things in English intonation carries more meaning than the actual words.....
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ex: Our burglar alarm is forever going off for no reason.
He is always snoring in his sleep.
He was always snoring in his sleep |
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Again emphasis - is carried by the adverbs - forever suggests annoyance
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2) And is it true that both the simple present / past and the progressive can express a bad habit ?
ex: I always lose my keys = I am always losing my keys.
(same meaning ?)
He always works late at the office = He is always working late at the office. |
Yes both can express bad habits.
The second example though may not be seen as a bad habit -
Once again - I hope my explanations are clear and this is helpful. |
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hela
Joined: 02 May 2004 Posts: 420 Location: Tunisia
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 10:03 am Post subject: |
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Thank you Helen for your reply. That what very clear, thank you.
Best wishes,
Hela |
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