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[Aichan]

In my opinion, all of Japanese history book is not wrong. I am an Japanese and I studied relation between Japan and China. I'm sure that Japanese army did a person a bad turn in the Second World War. I think Japanese goverment should apologize their acts.
However Chinese seem to have the past thing all the time. Then they blame Japan. I want Chinese to look at real life. They shold look at good point in Japan. For example, Japan gives finantial assistance, it's a lot of money. And there are many Japanese companies in China. It's more important rather to become friendly than to become unfriendly. What do you think?

[elichina]

I 'm angry to saw your views.
You said:"However Chinese seem to have the past thing all the time. Then they blame Japan. "

First ,The japanese killed too many chinese in WW2.Japanese hurt chinese ' feeling ,japanese suport their goverment 's war.In fact ,about 500 years ago ,japanese invade china many times.

Second,you said"""I think Japanese goverment should apologize their acts. "
In fact ,they didn't !
Chinese looking at real life. Many japanese want to invade china again.
japan-goverment made trouble in Aisa.Not only chinese hate japan ,But also include korea , Vietnam and so on.why chinese not hate korea,Vietanam ,russia.Only japanese????????

"Japan gives finantial assistance"
I think you are abashment to said this. In WW2,many chinese kill by japan ,about 30 000 000 died because of japanese 'invade.The japan'army not only kill so many people ,But also ,the damaging(broke) so many chinese ' products.they rob chinese ' resourse.

Oh my GOD!
japan gives finatial assistance,they want to control the chinese ' politics.
I don't think that ' kind of the japanese.In history ,Us gave finatial assistance to many countries of Europe . In fact ,Us control many of their
politics.

1.the japan goverment will stop their assistance.
2.we desert the japanese war reparation after reparation.
3.Because of tsunami of the indian ocean ,China-goverment send rescue
team very fast,Through china is not very rich ,We subscribe the people too.

At last,I think you are so foolish man ,japanese really very wild.
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[Mole]

"japanese really very wild"
yes, i think so too. Japanese army done not permitted things.
i angry to Japanese government's posture beforehand.
Japanese government didn't correct action till now.

but now. are chinese people doing correct action?
they attack people who isn't army, even Chinese people who use car made in Japanese. additionally, most of attacking people are laughing!
i Don't say "forget Japanese did". but i hope chinese people to be more cool, to prove Chinese are very wise people.

[atmsci]

[element105]

Totally wrong,the one,who ought to apologize formally to the world for the past sins,is Japanese emperor and government,they haven't do that yet.And do not intent mixing compensation with the loans you provided which we will return back.China and Korea had alreay formally given up your compensations after the war ending in order to help Japanese rebuilding Japan. And do not intent leading the discussion off topic that we are discussing of.Its Japanese history textbook,not Chinese history which we know clearly and much better than you.Your behavior show us that you still have not the courage to face up your past.What you are doing is ceaselessly avoiding cowardly only.

If you continue your attitude like this,you will never get yourselves out of the past impression of other people,never get a permanent status of the UNSC and never get the forgiveness of the victims.On the contratory,the Germans have done too much better than you,they are getting recognition of the world gradually.

[elichina]

At the end ,I want to said this:

1,who want to be victims??who want to appear as victims? I think chinese
really don't want to be victims.I 'm sure .

2,"are chinese people doing correct action? they attack people who isn't
army" I think because japanese' actions really made many chinese angry!
like this first post (japanese 's view) made me angry.In fact ,japan
invaded china many many times in history.china didn't.Every times The japanese killed so many chinese are all not army .Even include woman and children.who can tell me what it si human right????GOD Who could cry for them???

recently ,some chinese kenw what they did ,Our leaders told all the college students (people )to keep coolness.

And I think japan must know never correct their action is very very

dangerous!!!

3.In fact ,I know ,we are all common beings,all the chinese love peace,all the chinese hate war.Include me. we all common beings ,I hate japan ,I hate some of japanese who want to invade china and makes trouble. I like Germany ,DON't like japan .I think not only chinese think so ,BUT ALSO I think korea and the other countries in Asia.

I want to make friends with Foreign people in the world.I haVE
many foreign friends in my life now.most of them from US,some of them
from south Africa .welcome to china,we want to communite with
you. I will introduce you to visit many intrests,sights ,many places in china.
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I'm a college student of sias international university .
I keep silent ,never to debate with you ,Not mean I agree with you!

[atmsci]

[atmsci]

[element105]

[atmsci]

[iamawanker]

The chineses are a f-u-ck-i-ng conquerors who wanna give lessons of victimisim. Have they ever apologized about the masacre of Tibet. The Chinese are a fu-ckers

[iamawanker]

You should say this as well in the Tibetan masacre case.

[elichina]

[wing]

It is reasonable to say that the Japanese government has never apologized for it sins in the past since it doesn't have the moral courage to admit during the times what its people did. And whenever the leaders are in the spotlight addressing the issue of atrocities occured in its neighbourhood, they either deliver some of the most quoted lines shaking off the responsibility they should have taken for or play a game of words so that the audiences are confuesed with the multi-meanings.

There is something similar in the two countries; they once were really good friends, after all.
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[wing]