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ateeq
Joined: 03 Feb 2005 Posts: 53 Location: Earth
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 8:30 pm Post subject: What do u think desecrated the Holy Koran at Guantanamo bay? |
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Hello to All,
Two days ago,U.S soldiers in Guantanamo bay desecrated the Holy Koran.
Now I would like to ask from the world that Why America is doing this?
Actaully I would to tend the world attention to this violation of Holy Koran.
Have you ever heard that a muslim world desecrated the Bible? No Never.
Now I would like to ask you a simple and easy question,Why they are doing this,for what purpose,And all they did on purpose.
I would like to know your comments about this issue.
_________________ Peace Seeker! |
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Bob S.

Joined: 29 Apr 2004 Posts: 1767 Location: So. Cal
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 8:26 am Post subject: Re: What do u think desecrated the Holy Koran at Guantanamo |
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ateeq wrote: |
Hello to All,
Two days ago,U.S soldiers in Guantanamo bay desecrated the Holy Koran.
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Correction: two days ago, we found out about it. Who knows when it actually happened or how many times. Here is the original news source that leaked the information: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7693889/site/newsweek/ and scan down to the story "GUANTANAMO:A Scandal Spreads".
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Now I would like to ask you a simple and easy question,Why they are doing this,for what purpose,And all they did on purpose. |
The article states clearly, "in an attempt to rattle suspects". Not that I'm defending them. I think it was wrong, stupid, wrong, reckless, and WRONG.
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Have you ever heard that a muslim world desecrated the Bible? No Never. |
No, you don't hear much about them desecrating the Bible itself, but you hear a lot about certain extremist Islamic groups desecrating churches and killing Christians.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/08/02/iraq.main/
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/002970.php
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/003492.php
Where is the mutual respect? The idiocy on both sides needs to stop. |
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asterix
Joined: 26 Jan 2003 Posts: 1654
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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It's just a book. |
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ateeq
Joined: 03 Feb 2005 Posts: 53 Location: Earth
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 9:28 pm Post subject: Re: What do u think desecrated the Holy Koran at Guantanamo |
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Bob S. wrote: |
ateeq wrote: |
Hello to All,
Two days ago,U.S soldiers in Guantanamo bay desecrated the Holy Koran.
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Correction: two days ago, we found out about it. Who knows when it actually happened or how many times. Here is the original news source that leaked the information: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7693889/site/newsweek/ and scan down to the story "GUANTANAMO:A Scandal Spreads".
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Now I would like to ask you a simple and easy question,Why they are doing this,for what purpose,And all they did on purpose. |
The article states clearly, "in an attempt to rattle suspects". Not that I'm defending them. I think it was wrong, stupid, wrong, reckless, and WRONG.
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Have you ever heard that a muslim world desecrated the Bible? No Never. |
No, you don't hear much about them desecrating the Bible itself, but you hear a lot about certain extremist Islamic groups desecrating churches and killing Christians.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/08/02/iraq.main/
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/002970.php
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/003492.php
Where is the mutual respect? The idiocy on both sides needs to stop. |
Ok Mr.Bob,
Then listen,if your question is that Islamic extremists targeting Churches in Iraq,then you are absolutely wrong.Because before war Iraq was safe and secure country,complete peace was there,there was no killing but now there is a civil war going on because of US invasions.let me know why US invaded Iraq? After all there was peace.
listen there is no point in argueing about US. US is the sinner for all this. _________________ Peace Seeker! |
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ateeq
Joined: 03 Feb 2005 Posts: 53 Location: Earth
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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Hey asterix:
Ok,I got your point.And,So far I estimated,you are secular. _________________ Peace Seeker! |
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asterix
Joined: 26 Jan 2003 Posts: 1654
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 3:56 am Post subject: |
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The story, in Newsweek, turns out to be untrue and Newsweek has apologised.
"Newsweek hid behind anonymous sources, which by their own admission do not withstand scrutiny," Whitman said. "Unfortunately, they cannot retract the damage they have done to this nation or those that were viciously attacked by those false allegations."
After Newsweek published the story, demonstrations spread across Afghanistan and Muslims around the world decried the alleged desecration.
Once again the Muslims go off half-c o c k e d! |
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ateeq
Joined: 03 Feb 2005 Posts: 53 Location: Earth
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 4:43 am Post subject: |
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All-right,Thanks for your comments.
Here I would like to ask just simple question.Why western world is doing this against muslim world?
what do u think,they did all this on purpose or just an incident? _________________ Peace Seeker! |
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mateomiguel
Joined: 16 May 2005 Posts: 2
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 6:36 am Post subject: |
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ateeq wrote: |
Why western world is doing this against muslim world?
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Because the western world has a burning hatred against the muslim world. They are responsible for all the world's problems and we will not rest until every last one of them is either killed or converted to our religion.
Or maybe its the other way around... |
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asterix
Joined: 26 Jan 2003 Posts: 1654
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 8:33 am Post subject: |
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You have this backwards.
It was Osama and his friends who attacked the Western world. |
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Bob S.

Joined: 29 Apr 2004 Posts: 1767 Location: So. Cal
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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ateeq wrote: |
Then listen,if your question is that Islamic extremists targeting Churches in Iraq,then you are absolutely wrong. |
Actually what brought this to mind was that it is also happening in Turkey, a secular democratic Muslim country. I gotta wonder if the secular democratic Christian EU countries are holding up Turkey's admission to the EU because they perceive a latent anti-Christian bias in the society or is it an anti-Muslim bias within the EU itself. But that's a discussion for another day.
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Because before war Iraq was safe and secure country,complete peace was there,there was no killing...After all there was peace. |
Oh? In the past 20 years, Saddam has killed Muslim Iranians, Kuwaitis, Kurds, and other Iraqis. Is a million dead Muslims considered peace? I don't think so.
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let me know why US invaded Iraq? |
IMHO, it wasn't about oil or WMDs or spreading freedom or any of the convenient answers by cheerleaders on either side of the issue. I think it was solely about getting rid of Saddam, a troublemaker in the region (see above about killing Iranians & Kurds and so on). The pressure to get rid of him via the food-for-oil process was weakening due to mass corruption at the U.N. (I'll bet they knew about the scandal long before the rest of us found out about it but couldn't use that alone as an excuse to take out Saddam), so the Bush administration was ready to use any excuse however feeble as an opportunity to do what they felt needed to be done.
But that's just my fun little conspiracy theory. Don't hold me to it. |
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ateeq
Joined: 03 Feb 2005 Posts: 53 Location: Earth
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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To Bob.S
First of all I would like to tell you something that 20 years ago,You know,what America did? then listen up.
America gave war weapons and nuck weapons to IRAQ to use against Iran and destroy Iran but Iraq didn't use that fatal weapons.Ok now my question,why America did it?Who is the sinner America,Iraq or muslim world? Iraq had no nuck weapons,never in history,it was America who provided these fatal weapons to destroy Iran.
America,knew that if Iraq goes down or Iran goes down in the War would help them to workout in Muslim world.In the name of Osama,America is targeting Muslim world,isn't it?
Now,I think you understan this point.
To Astrix,
You said that Osama is responsible for all this:I just want to tell you something,that if America can invade countries in the world.then why they can't capture Osama? As a matter of fact,there is no Osama,but America always says,that Osama is alive,because America wants to invade the countries.Got it! _________________ Peace Seeker! |
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asterix
Joined: 26 Jan 2003 Posts: 1654
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 6:15 am Post subject: |
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According to the Terrorists who are blowing up Iraqis, they are part of Al Quaida, which is the network that Osama started.
If you are so intent on being angry at the USA for what they did 20 years ago, you are taking a short sighted view. You should be looking at what the French and, particularly, the British did. It is because of their policies that the Middle East is in such a mess today.
I agree with you that there is no Osama.
I think the Americans vaporised him in Afghanistan.
Strike 3, Osama! |
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sunshine_101
Joined: 05 Feb 2005 Posts: 39 Location: somewhere in China
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 6:37 am Post subject: |
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asterix wrote: |
It's just a book. |
Sure,its just a Book the same as the BIBLE _________________ Sunshine loves Beauty of nature |
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Bob S.

Joined: 29 Apr 2004 Posts: 1767 Location: So. Cal
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 11:10 am Post subject: |
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ateeq wrote: |
America gave war weapons and nuck weapons to IRAQ to use against Iran and destroy Iran but Iraq didn't use that fatal weapons. |
Not nukes exactly, but the U.S. ignored Iraq as it bought Soviet weapons and European chemical warfare technology. But the point is the same.
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Ok now my question,why America did it? |
Need you ask? Do you really not know? I thought it was an Arab saying: the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Maybe I was mistaken. In the world of modern politics, we don't hold eternal grudges and enmity. Yesterday's enemy is today's friend; today's friend could be tomorrow's enemy. It's the way of the world.
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,America is targeting Muslim world,isn't it? |
That is the easy answer for small minds that like to wallow in victimhood and perpetual hate. If America targets the Muslim world, why does not also attack Turkey, Egypt, and Indonesia? Why does it try to make alliances with them instead of kill them? Expand your possibilities. The U.S. can be a useful ally to a clever leader regardless of any religious preferences. It's your choice. |
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Bob S.

Joined: 29 Apr 2004 Posts: 1767 Location: So. Cal
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 11:20 am Post subject: |
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sunshine_101 wrote: |
Sure,its just a Book the same as the BIBLE |
That is absolutely true. You are beginning to understand. These books are just things, ink on paper. Easily made; easily destroyed; and easily remade.
A thousand Bibles are not worth the life of one Muslim. A thousand Korans are not worth the life of one Atheist. A thousand "Origin of Species" are not worth the life of one Christian. Human life is more precious. Stop killing each other over a thing that is easily replaced.
Of course, now we don't know if the story was true or not. Was it true but now the magazine "Newsweek" is backing off the story because of bad publicity? Or was it all a lie to begin with from a reporter and magazine that hate the U.S. army and Bush's foreign policy? We know nothing, so hey, let's fight about nothing! |
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