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chengyan



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 9:37 am    Post subject: in biblical sense Reply with quote

Hello,

Could anyone here please tell me what "in the biblical sense" means?

I read it in a book, where the sentence is :

"Oh, I know Mickey," she said, and right away I wondered if she knew him in the biblical sense.

The context here is that "I" knew "she" had an affair with Mickey, which is "My" husband. But I am not quite sure what it exactly means here by "in a biblical sense".

Thanks,
Cheng
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i can't recite from the bible, but "to know somebody in the biblical sense" means nearly the same as "to have had sex with somebody".
so that you know this person quasi 'inside out' Wink

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a native English speaker and am not familiar with that interpretation
i.e. sex.
My interpretation is that it refers to teachings, values, or events of the Bible. I guess it depends on the context.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 3:02 pm    Post subject: The Biblical sense Reply with quote

The bible uses the euhemism *know* instead of saying *s e x u a l intercourse.*

Is she knew him in the biblical sense then she had s e x with him.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 3:10 pm    Post subject: In the biblical sense Reply with quote

The euphemism is first used when Adam and Eve had children. In order to procreate they had to have sexual intercourse. The bible says that Adam knew Eve, thereby politely avoiding the problem that Adam and Eve had had sex but were not married.
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chengyan



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all your explanation. Lucky that I asked. It's very interesting to learn about this.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 12:56 am    Post subject: To know you is to love you (song) Reply with quote

So be careful when you go up to a girl and say, "I would like to know you."
She might be familiar with the bible.
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Bob S.



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mostly you only see it in the older King James version.
e.g.
Genesis 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.

Genesis 19:5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.

and so on.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bob S. wrote:
Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.


Ooh! I think the use of know here is possibly different from what was meant when Adam knew Eve.

They were men, and I think that it is more likely that they just wanted to know something about them and not know the men *in the biblical sense.*

Maybe I am wrong, for there are some q u e e r things that went on in the older versions of the bible.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

advoca wrote:
Bob S. wrote:
Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.

They were men, and I think that it is more likely that they just wanted to know something about them and not know the men *in the biblical sense.*
Maybe I am wrong, for there are some q u e e r things that went on in the older versions of the bible.

Well, you can check here (http://bible.gospelcom.net/) for other translations. I think most suggest in the story that a gang from the city wanted to gang rape Lot's visitors. Religious scholars debate whether it was that or the gross inhospitality of the city that made God decide to destroy the place. (Not that I want to start a whole new debate here.)
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