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Vin21



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:28 am    Post subject: swing by Reply with quote

drop by
drop in
drop into
stop by
swing by

What are the differences between them?
Does "swing by somewhere" mean return somewhere you've been before and then you go again?
Thanks!
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Bob S.



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 11:35 am    Post subject: Re: swing by Reply with quote

Vin21 wrote:
Does "swing by somewhere" mean return somewhere you've been before and then you go again?

No. Swing by means you are going from point A to point C, but you will make a brief stop at point B before continuing to C. B is a little inconvenient on your way, but not much.

E.g.
On my way home from work, I will swing by the grocery store that's on the way and pick up some milk, bread, and kitty litter.
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bud



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, I wouldn't use drop into. I think into changes the focus of the sentence from going to the destination - the focus instead becomes the act of entering the destination. (I don't know if that is very clearly stated, though.)

The other three are equivalent and are different from swing by. In these cases, the object is your main destination, and most often it implies for only a brief time (swing by also is usually for a short while).
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Vin21



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Bob S., bud

I first thought that "swing by" meant to move back and forth,as on a swing. Now I understand.

bud wrote:
the focus instead becomes the act of entering the destination.


I don't really understand what's the act like here?
Is that like he is losing his consciousness?
Or he is attracted by something that he enters the destination ?
Or he enters the destination unintentionally for some reasons unknown?
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bud



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is how I think it works:

(i) If the main purpose of the sentence (or clause) is to show that someone or something is inside of something else, then in is used.

The hat is in the box.
The stray cat lives in the garage.
The girl is in the car.

In each example, we don't learn anything about how they got there, and it isn't important. The important thing is, "Where are they?"

(ii) If the main purpose is the "going" from outside to inside, then into is used.

She put the hat into the box.
The stray cat moved into the garage. (It made its home in the garage.)
The girl got into the car.

In each of these examples, the most important issue is the transition from outside to inside.

Is that any clearer? If so, it is why I don't think drop into is the same as the other expressions. Drop in focuses on "being there" for a little while. To me, drop into would be focusing on "getting there" more so than "being there."

Drop into is an expression with a different meaning, though. If you're washing a car, you drop your sponge into the bucket when you're ready to grab the hose to rinse it off.

I hope that better explains it, but ask away if it doesn't.
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Vin21



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It couldn't be clearer,bud.
I got it.Thanks! Very Happy
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bud



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Vin!
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