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wendy_kb8



Joined: 12 Aug 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 11:19 pm    Post subject: there should be someone who can correct our mistakes~ Reply with quote

i think there should be sb who will correct our mistakes in our posts,just like a manager or some other people.
coz many foreigners can't use english well,there maybe some mistakes in our sentences ,but other people may not understand what we are talking about ,so i think we need some people who can help us to correct these mistakes.
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asterix



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No kidding. OK
Do not write i when you mean I.
The personal pronoun I is always written with a capital letter.
Do not write sb when you mean somebody.
Do not write coz when you mean because.

The last two are not mistakes they are simply laziness.
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Bob S.



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be careful what you wish for, Wendy, you may get it. Twisted Evil

But seriously, I don't know what Dave's official policy is, and I can't speak for all teachers and helpers here, but I don't like to correct people's English in the discussion forums because I don't want to discourage them from trying and using their English skill, however much or little that may be. Imagine if every time you came on to post your opinion, one of us jumped in to correct all your little verb tense or article usage errors? Many people would become too shy and would stop posting their ideas.
So don't worry about your grammar mistakes here. Freely put your ideas out with whatever English you have. If you are not sure about your English before you post and want some help, please feel free to ask first over in "Learning English".
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wendy_kb8



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bob S. wrote:
Imagine if every time you came on to post your opinion, one of us jumped in to correct all your little verb tense or article usage errors? Many people would become too shy and would stop posting their ideas.

U r right ,it's an important point ,but i've never thought of that. Embarassed Every time I see people's mistakes in thier posts ,the first idea in my mind is to correct them ,but I'm not sure if i can make it.

Bob S. wrote:
So don't worry about your grammar mistakes here. Freely put your ideas out with whatever English you have. If you are not sure about your English before you post and want some help, please feel free to ask first over in "Learning English".

Bob,u just told me what should I do when I get a problem with my English ,YES ,if I cannot make sure,I 'll post in "Learning English" .But I want to say if the poster didn't realize that he(she) had made a mistake ,and if we all like u said ,nobody jump out to point out the mistakes they made ,the mistakes will still exist in thier minds ,I'm just worrying about this.
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wendy_kb8



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

asterix wrote:
No kidding. OK
Do not write i when you mean I.
The personal pronoun I is always written with a capital letter.
Do not write sb when you mean somebody.
Do not write coz when you mean because.

The last two are not mistakes they are simply laziness.


I don't think u understood what i mean ,but still thank you.
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weiyao



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bob S. wrote:
Be careful what you wish for, Wendy, you may get it. Twisted Evil

But seriously, I don't know what Dave's official policy is, and I can't speak for all teachers and helpers here, but I don't like to correct people's English in the discussion forums because I don't want to discourage them from trying and using their English skill, however much or little that may be. Imagine if every time you came on to post your opinion, one of us jumped in to correct all your little verb tense or article usage errors? Many people would become too shy and would stop posting their ideas.
So don't worry about your grammar mistakes here. Freely put your ideas out with whatever English you have. If you are not sure about your English before you post and want some help, please feel free to ask first over in "Learning English".

absolutely right
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carlos lofredo



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:54 am    Post subject: Re: there should be someone who can correct our mistakes~ Reply with quote

wendy_kb8 wrote:
i think there should be sb who will correct our mistakes in our posts,just like a manager or some other people.
coz many foreigners can't use english well,there maybe some mistakes in our sentences ,but other people may not understand what we are talking about ,so i think we need some people who can help us to correct these mistakes.


I think you are, right, mi mane is Carlos im from Argentina and i think that is very important at list to me that some one correct me.
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stellara



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

generally i think you're right but then there's the question if this is a forum to discuss and talk about some interesting issue or to really learn english and correct every mistake. because when we'd do that we can't discuss properly.
i think if someone maybe just corrects the major mistakes like a wrong preposition or a senseless word or sentence it would be good but there's the other side too.

if you don't understand exactly what someone means, you could just ask him. Wink

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pugachevV



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can see both sides of the argument. BUT, if your reason for being on Dave's ESL Cafe is to improve your English, you should try to use correct English, surely?
For instance Wendy continues to use such abominations as u r for you are.
If you are text messaging someone on your mobile phone, no doubt u r will suffice but everywhere else it is sheer laziness and should be avoided.
gd knws wr t my ld.
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stellara



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

that's maybe possible but it's also not the best solution since computer programmes are usually not really reliable.. Wink

pugachevV wrote:
gd knws wr t my ld.

i agree with you..
okay, what means this? Surprised i can decode " god knows where to my ??" is this right? doesn't make any sense to me..

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Bob S.



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stellara wrote:
pugachevV wrote:
gd knws wr t my ld.

i agree with you..
okay, what means this? Surprised i can decode " god knows where to my ??" is this right? doesn't make any sense to me..

God knows where it may lead.

MS Word catches a lot of basic spelling errors, but it doesn't catch many homonym usage errors (wear/where, horde/hoard, to/too/two, etc.). And its grammar check is often hit-and-miss (it notes some things as bad grammar that are actually fine given the context). But it's better than nothing.
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stellara



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow, thank you.. i wouldn't have guessed this Wink

i agree with you but i think another language problem is the usage of the prepositions and phrasal verbs and so on. and i don't think that ms word could correct these mistakes because at least the german version only can notice spelling or flexion mistakes..

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