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mings
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 Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 1:54 am Post subject: Please help. |
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Dear teacher.
I don't understand from 'that although' to ' in use'.
I don't know how the structure is used because I think that after 'although' there should be a clause.
'Computers are proving helpful, however, that although very expensive many thousands are in use.'
Please help me explain.
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stellara
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| Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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| that although very expensive many thousands are in use |
i understand it so that the computers are very expensive but despite of that fact, there are many thousands in use.
but, the that is irritating me a little..
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river1974
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| Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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'Computers are proving helpful, however, that although very expensive many thousands are in use.'
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I guess the original is:
Computers are proving helpful, however, that although computers are very expensive many thousands are in use.
In the above, "computers are very expensive" is regarded as a clause, but the phrase "computers are" is omitted. If so, your sentence is correct. |
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mings
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| Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, I agree with your explanation. But "that' ? Which meaning it contains.
Please help.
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bud
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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| I thhink it is an incorrect sentence whose intended meaning is described by the other responders. |
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mings
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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Dear Sir,
Can I omit 'that' to make the sentence correct?
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iitimone7
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 4:18 pm Post subject: that |
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for this situation...
in spoken english, the word 'that' is often omitted.
in written english, the word 'that' should be used.
for a different situation...
if you point at an apple and say, "please hand me that," the word 'that' refers to the apple.
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mings
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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Is it a conjunction?
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iitimone7
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 4:29 pm Post subject: that |
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| in the different situation it is.. |
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advoca
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 4:56 pm Post subject: Re: Please help. |
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| mings wrote: |
'Computers are proving helpful, however, that although very expensive many thousands are in use.'
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I think it is clearer if the omitted words are incuded.
'Computers are proving helpful, however, in that although they are very expensive many thousands are in use.
But it would be better to redraft the sentence. |
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mings
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks to the help of all of you. I understand the sentence thoroughly.
Thanks for your kind help.
Thank you very much. |
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