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stellara · Joined: 02 Apr 2005 Posts: 583 Location: germany

yeah, me too... Rolling Eyes

I thought one of these dictators was only in power because the USA helped him to take over?! I just don't know exactly who.. I think it was Saddam but i'm not quite sure.

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asterix · Joined: 26 Jan 2003 Posts: 1654

Great, # 105, I have made you vomit.
I presume that because you live in a dictatorship, and are part of the problem, the idea of freedom to do and say hatever you wish scares you.
I have heard that ginger is good for an upset stomach.
Incidentally the USA has not colonised Iraq as you Chinese have done with Tibet.

asterix · Joined: 26 Jan 2003 Posts: 1654

Which particular dictator did you have in mind stellara? If you mean Saddam N0 - he was able to sieze power with a bunch of his Sunni military friends and relatives.
He was armed by Russia, Germany, and France, all of whom were against the US invasion of Iraq.
I wonder why?

pugachevV · Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 2295

So Comrade Element and Comrade Stellara. You don't like America.
Element, who was it who defeated the Japanese and allowed you to become happy little Communists?
America.
Stellara who was it who rebuilt Germany after 1945?
America.
All it's got them is abuse.
What do you suppose was their sinister plan?

stellara · Joined: 02 Apr 2005 Posts: 583 Location: germany

i didn't say that i don't like America and i neither say that USA had a sinister plan for anything! I just don't appreciate the American policy.

And I have something against people who think they can critizise me of ignoring some facts and do it by theirselves as well. and i don't think that the USA should be praised in heaven just because it helped Germany or any other country rebuilding. i'm quite certain that anytime there comes a sentence like "but we helped to rebuild your country so you can do this for me in return" .. Rolling Eyes

to asterix: i really don't know who it was but i'm certain i read something like this in a newspaper some time ago and i wondered just because it sounds to me as if the USA were acting with countries like a child laying with lego bracks - first building something, then destroying it because it doesn't like it anymore and finally rebuilding it and saying "see, how nice i am" ...
I'm certain that it was about the USA and any dictator but i don't remember who it was - not even if it was someone from africa or from asia... I just wanted to say this because i hoped that someone else would remember Wink

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element105 · Joined: 14 Jun 2004 Posts: 518 Location: Tsingtao,China

You both got me wrong,when I said 'I can't stop vomiting',it didn't mean that I dont like America.What made me vomit was the stereotype by saying 'America is trying to bring a better life to those of you...blahblahblah',it was sheer bull crap and made no sence of useness.When Japan invaded neighboring countries in WW2,the same word was said to peoples of these countries,using 'Japan' instead of 'America' merely.

Besides,who brought Saddam on the throne?I bet if he worked loyally for his boss whatever he had done to his own people,his boss would not care about at all.

stellara · Joined: 02 Apr 2005 Posts: 583 Location: germany

oh good lord, i know why i think that war is just so stupid! Rolling Eyes

jobbynext · Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 26

Hi! I'm from Europe and I wonder what America thinks. May be they think that they own the world. The future generations will have to live here, the earth belongs to the humanity, not to only one country! If the richest country says that the Kyoto agreement will affect to the economy, which economy will not be affected......??????

My view is that America must accept. We have to realize that we are destruying the world, the consequences can be harmful with the poorest countries. That's the reality and we must try to solve it.

stellara · Joined: 02 Apr 2005 Posts: 583 Location: germany

yeah, generally i think you're right, but i think the earth belongs to itself and its inhabitants. means not only the humanity but also every other creature that lives in it.
but the humanity is the only race that is able to think and do something against this pollution, so ...

jobbynext · Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 26

stellara · Joined: 02 Apr 2005 Posts: 583 Location: germany

i don't know so much about the current efforts to stop the earth pollution. but i think it's a start at least..
Greets Wink

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element105 · Joined: 14 Jun 2004 Posts: 518 Location: Tsingtao,China

The hurricane katrina is only a sign coming from the Great Nature for urging the U.S. signing the kyoto treaty asap.

asterix · Joined: 26 Jan 2003 Posts: 1654

The earth has been through ice ages and warming cycles long before the industrial age.
America has been hit with hurricanes for thousands of years.
Signing a piece of paper will not change that.
As for Katrina and New Orleans - if you build a city below sea level, you'd better make sure you build the levees high enough.

element105 · Joined: 14 Jun 2004 Posts: 518 Location: Tsingtao,China

You don't deny the greenhouse effect really accelerates the earth getting crazy,do you.According to your form of saying,I can say,man have to die,just earlier or later,so going to see doctors will not change that,in other words,we won't go to see any doctor,won't take any medicine,seems only doctors won't agree. Laughing