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BMO



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 11:48 pm    Post subject: Loanwords Reply with quote

Do you consider words of Latin, Greek, German, French origin to be loanwords?

Thanks.

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mittari



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As long as they're (completely or partially) naturalized, it doesn't matter what language they're adopted from; they are loanwords.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 6:49 pm    Post subject: loan words Reply with quote

yes...
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you both.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 5:23 pm    Post subject: Loan words Reply with quote

Where do words come from? Many words derive from roots in other languages. They are called loan-words. Here are a few examples

Words derived from modern French:
� Aperitif
� Apr�s-ski
� Avant-garde
� Bidet
� Bourgeois
� Brasserie
� Caf�
� Camouflage
� Canard
� Chateau
� Chef
� Chevalier
� Coup de grace
� Coup d�etat
� Croissant
� Cuisine
� Debacle
� Debut
� Dessert
� Elite
� Esprit de corps
� Etiquette
� Fianc�
� Fricassee
� Garage
� Gourmand
� Gourmet
� Hors d�oeuvre
� Hotel
� Joie de vivre
� Liaison
� Limousine
� Lingerie
� Marionette
� Morale
� Objet d�art
� Parole
� Pastiche
� Patisserie
� Petite
� Pirouette
� Prestige
� Regime
� Silhouette
� Souvenir
� Vignette
� Voyeur
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Bob S.



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 9:52 am    Post subject: Re: Loan words Reply with quote

advoca wrote:
Where do words come from? Many words derive from roots in other languages. They are called loan-words.

That's a bit tricky. At its root, English is a Germanic language with heavy infusions of French. At what point does a word cease to be considered a "loan word" and just becomes part of the regular language? How can one tell the difference?
It's strange to think that "God" is not considered a loan word (from Germanic Got) but "deli" is (from German delikatessen). Confused And are newly created words from Latin origin considered loan words even though they may not have existed in Latin 2000 years ago in Rome? Hmph... Wacky English. Rolling Eyes
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mittari



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 10:24 am    Post subject: Re: Loan words Reply with quote

Bob S. wrote:
And are newly created words from Latin origin considered loan words even though they may not have existed in Latin 2000 years ago in Rome?


what does that change?
even if Latin wasn't a dead lingo Crying or Very sad , imagine today you take a word from, say, russian and merge it into english. it's still a loanword, isn't it.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 12:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Loan words Reply with quote

mittari wrote:
what does that change?
even if Latin wasn't a dead lingo Crying or Very sad , imagine today you take a word from, say, russian and merge it into english. it's still a loanword, isn't it.

I'm thinking of words like amniocentesis, bio-ethics electrophoresis, or technocrat. The roots of the word are Latin or Greek, but the words themselves are purely modern in creation and use.
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