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hani
Joined: 27 Apr 2004 Posts: 95 Location: ksa
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 3:20 pm Post subject: America |
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America = war
if there is no America there is no war . _________________ Once upon the time
I was looking for you
I never do a crime
By living to love you |
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asterix
Joined: 26 Jan 2003 Posts: 1654
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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Don't talk bloody nonsense!
It's all right to hate America but it is not OK to allow your hatred to blind you to the truth.
What about Chechnya?
What about Rwanda?
What about the three wars in which the 300 million Arabs tried to wipe out 7 million Israelis?
What about all the nasty little African wars?
What about Kashmir.
Etc., etc..
In almost every war today Muslims are involved. |
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stellara

Joined: 02 Apr 2005 Posts: 583 Location: germany
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 1:09 am Post subject: |
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ahm, no, it's not okay to hate America. it's okay to hate or not to like the policy of USA, at the most.
and i don't agree with you, that america = war. firstly, i think you mean just the USA because middle and south america is politically not very active or important or whatever.
secondly, if you really think that if the USA weren't there then the world would be in peace then you're very naive. there are so many people in the world, in some country there would be another bush who thinks he's the leader of the world. i also think that it's quite independent of who actually is the leader of USA but it mostly depends on how the other countries like europe, china, japan, react to the actions of USA. for example, in the iraq war the USA clearly broke the rules of the UNO and what did the other countries do?! that's like threatening a child and then not doing what you've said. totally inconsistent..
greets _________________ Don't cry because it's over - smile because it happened!
MOKEY ROCKS!!! |
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LucentShade
Joined: 30 Dec 2003 Posts: 542 Location: Nebraska, USA
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 1:33 am Post subject: |
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| Let's also not forget that the two major world wars of the previous century began as conflicts unrelated to America. |
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Hayde
Joined: 23 Oct 2005 Posts: 177 Location: Icheon, Korea
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 4:12 am Post subject: |
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Look, I don't agree with a lot of the Bush Administration's policies (actually, I hate them, especially as a Canadian), but while America has done a lot of stupid things, it has also done a lot of good things. Those just usually aren't known. But even if not, even if America wasn't here, there would still be war. Unfortunately, the human race is still in its infancy, and there will be war for awhile. I just hope one day we can all grow up  |
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luki
Joined: 15 Apr 2005 Posts: 1
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 7:38 am Post subject: |
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| if there real democracy in America maybe no war. China has no democracy but America doesnt have real democracy too. Like secretary of state preach to china democracy but she isn't elected by people of America. Is that democracy? |
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RedRose

Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 2735 Location: GuangZhou, China
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 9:59 am Post subject: |
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I don't have any intense feelings for America( I mean US) so far.
oF COURSE, US always bullies some Meddle East countries for oil. that's for sure. but what I care about is another conception: American people. of whom I have known are very nice and friendly.
They teach me English patiently, and they are always so funny and frank. |
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admiral

Joined: 17 Sep 2005 Posts: 546
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 10:47 am Post subject: |
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If the USA hasn't made some stupid wars, nobody would hate the country. _________________ If I say "I love you" to someone, then I also have to say "I love inside you everyone else. I love the whole world because of you. I also love myself inside you" |
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Bob S.

Joined: 29 Apr 2004 Posts: 1767 Location: So. Cal
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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| luki wrote: |
| ...America doesnt have real democracy too. |
Technically this is true, none of the so-called "democracies" are pure 100% democracies but rather some form of democratic Republic. The people democratically choose their representatives by voting for a party from a selection of parties (the European parliamentary system) or an individual representative of that party (the system used in the U.S.).
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| Like secretary of state preach to china democracy but she isn't elected by people of America. Is that democracy? |
Technically, still yes. The Secretary of __whatever__ (State, Interior, Defense, etc.) is an employee of the leader of the Executive branch of the government. The Commander in Chief of the Executive branch is selected by a vote of the people. If the people don't like the job performance of the Commander in Chief's employees, the people can collectively choose not to renew the 4-year employment contract of the Commander in Chief or his political party. |
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hani
Joined: 27 Apr 2004 Posts: 95 Location: ksa
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 7:34 am Post subject: |
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of course i don't hate Americans but i hate who represent America ( Bush
the baby, Rummy, Conddy ....etc) i can't mention America without
rememebered my people the killed by Americans in Iraq, Lebanon
Afganstan and will be in Syria . they killing us 2 get our oil _________________ Once upon the time
I was looking for you
I never do a crime
By living to love you |
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