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hani



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 3:20 pm    Post subject: America Reply with quote

America = war

if there is no America there is no war .
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asterix



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't talk bloody nonsense!
It's all right to hate America but it is not OK to allow your hatred to blind you to the truth.
What about Chechnya?
What about Rwanda?
What about the three wars in which the 300 million Arabs tried to wipe out 7 million Israelis?
What about all the nasty little African wars?
What about Kashmir.
Etc., etc..
In almost every war today Muslims are involved.
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stellara



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ahm, no, it's not okay to hate America. it's okay to hate or not to like the policy of USA, at the most.

and i don't agree with you, that america = war. firstly, i think you mean just the USA because middle and south america is politically not very active or important or whatever.
secondly, if you really think that if the USA weren't there then the world would be in peace then you're very naive. there are so many people in the world, in some country there would be another bush who thinks he's the leader of the world. i also think that it's quite independent of who actually is the leader of USA but it mostly depends on how the other countries like europe, china, japan, react to the actions of USA. for example, in the iraq war the USA clearly broke the rules of the UNO and what did the other countries do?! that's like threatening a child and then not doing what you've said. totally inconsistent..

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LucentShade



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's also not forget that the two major world wars of the previous century began as conflicts unrelated to America.
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Hayde



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look, I don't agree with a lot of the Bush Administration's policies (actually, I hate them, especially as a Canadian), but while America has done a lot of stupid things, it has also done a lot of good things. Those just usually aren't known. But even if not, even if America wasn't here, there would still be war. Unfortunately, the human race is still in its infancy, and there will be war for awhile. I just hope one day we can all grow up Smile
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luki



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if there real democracy in America maybe no war. China has no democracy but America doesnt have real democracy too. Like secretary of state preach to china democracy but she isn't elected by people of America. Is that democracy?
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RedRose



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have any intense feelings for America( I mean US) so far.

oF COURSE, US always bullies some Meddle East countries for oil. that's for sure. but what I care about is another conception: American people. of whom I have known are very nice and friendly.

They teach me English patiently, and they are always so funny and frank.
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admiral



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the USA hasn't made some stupid wars, nobody would hate the country.
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Bob S.



Joined: 29 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

luki wrote:
...America doesnt have real democracy too.

Technically this is true, none of the so-called "democracies" are pure 100% democracies but rather some form of democratic Republic. The people democratically choose their representatives by voting for a party from a selection of parties (the European parliamentary system) or an individual representative of that party (the system used in the U.S.).

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Like secretary of state preach to china democracy but she isn't elected by people of America. Is that democracy?

Technically, still yes. The Secretary of __whatever__ (State, Interior, Defense, etc.) is an employee of the leader of the Executive branch of the government. The Commander in Chief of the Executive branch is selected by a vote of the people. If the people don't like the job performance of the Commander in Chief's employees, the people can collectively choose not to renew the 4-year employment contract of the Commander in Chief or his political party.
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hani



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

of course i don't hate Americans but i hate who represent America ( Bush

the baby, Rummy, Conddy ....etc) i can't mention America without

rememebered my people the killed by Americans in Iraq, Lebanon

Afganstan and will be in Syria . they killing us 2 get our oil
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