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neverenough
Joined: 23 Nov 2005 Posts: 3
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Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 12:15 am Post subject: Dave's ESL Cafe quizzes |
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This is addressed to doliver, who is a moderator and I assume the same as Dennis Oliver who is credited for creating a "quiz" in the quizzes section of this website or anyone who wants to respond.
Two of the questions in the quiz are as follows:
1. If it _____ raining, I'd work outside today.
2. If Joe _______ in an important meeting, he would go home and take a
nap.
Now I realize my English grammar is not the strongest point of my English but I and many people I have asked believe the correct answer should be
"wasn't" but that is not one of the three choices given. The "correct" answer given is "weren't". If this is true, can someone please give me the grammatical reason why? Thank you in advance. |
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doliver
Joined: 09 Oct 2005 Posts: 36
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Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 4:32 am Post subject: Dave's ESL Cafe Quizzes |
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Hi, Neverenough.
You wrote:
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Two of the questions in the quiz are as follows:
1. If it _____ raining, I'd work outside today.
2. If Joe _______ in an important meeting, he would go home and take a
nap.
Now I realize my English grammar is not the strongest point of my English but I and many people I have asked believe the correct answer should be
"wasn't" but that is not one of the three choices given. The "correct" answer given is "weren't". If this is true, can someone please give me the grammatical reason why?
Thank you in advance. |
Comments:
In informal conversational English, "If ___ wasn't" (as in "If it wasn't raining" and "If Joe wasn't in an important meeting") is commonly heard, but in formal written English, "If it weren't" is still considered the norm. Our students need to know both forms, of course, but if they only know the informal conversational form, they are missing important information�information which regularly appears on standardized tests of English proficiency.
For more information, see these online resources:
http://www.englishpage.com/conditional/presentconditional.html#presentunreal
http://web2.uvcs.uvic.ca/elc/studyzone/410/grammar/2cond.htm
http://www.usingenglish.com/glossary/2nd-conditional.html
http://www.geocities.com/athens/olympus/7583/condless.html
http://bogglesworld.com/glossary/secondconditional.htm
http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/conditional.htm
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I hope this information has been useful, Neverenough.
D. Oliver _________________ Dennis Oliver
Estrella Mountain Community College
Avondale, AZ U.S.A.
http://www.emc.maricopa.edu |
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Hayde
Joined: 23 Oct 2005 Posts: 177 Location: Icheon, Korea
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Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, I agree with doliver, weren't is proper for written English, and I have even heard a couple people say it, but I never say that. I always say wasn't myself. Both are correct in spoken English now. |
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doliver
Joined: 09 Oct 2005 Posts: 36
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 5:51 am Post subject: "if I wasn't" vs "if I weren't" |
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Just remember that while knowing what is commonly used in informal spoken English is important, what is appropriate for formal and written English is probably more important. That doesn't mean that "if I wasn't" is wrong; what it means is that "if I weren't" is considered more appropriate in educated, formal situations in which one is expected to use his or her "best" English.
D. Oliver _________________ Dennis Oliver
Estrella Mountain Community College
Avondale, AZ U.S.A.
http://www.emc.maricopa.edu |
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