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ABC's "Catalyst" says NO PLAN FOR PEAK OIL!

 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 3:03 am    Post subject: ABC's "Catalyst" says NO PLAN FOR PEAK OIL! Reply with quote

Guys and girls, after watching this one... I freaked out.
I mean, I've known about this for a year now, but seeing the ABC say it like it really, really, scientifically verifiably just IS... wow.

They had the stockmarket crashing, the airlines going bankrupt, the food disappearing from supermarkets... EVERYTHING! I'm feeling like it really is the end of civilization!

http://www.abc.net.au/catalyst/stories/s1515141.htm

Transcript

Narration: What would happen if the world started running out of oil?

Jeremy Leggett: It�s going to be very difficult to get gasoline for transport. Food is not going to be getting through in enough quantities to the shops,

Narration: Conventional wisdom says that�s at least 30 years away.

So why does a growing group of petroleum experts believe it�s coming within three?

Eric Streitberg: Ah. I think it�s happening now frankly.

Peter Newman: It gives me nightmares when I think about what we�re headed for.

Narration: Are they just scaremongerers or have the rest of us been asleep at the wheel. Are we about to hit the real oil crisis?

Jeremy Leggett: Really when the crisis dawns I think people are going to be looking back in anger. How have we allowed ourselves to get into this mess?

Narration: In just a century, we�ve allowed our lives to become entirely dependent on cheap oil.

Jonica Newby, Reporter: And it�s not just that 90% of our transportation is fuelled by oil. This shopping centre is literally full of petroleum products.

Look: the fabric in these clothes � petroleum based. These plastics, petroleum based. It takes on average 6 barrels of oil just to bring one cow to market.

Narration: Yet who of us stops to think oil is a finite resource - the lifeblood of our modern world is steadily pouring away.

Jeremy Leggett: We just take it so much for granted that cars drive around, the pumps are always full. I talk to people in financial institutions who are investing on the assumption that oil supplies are going to grow and grow into the 2030�s. I hardly ever meet anyone who knows about this problem outside a relatively elite group of whistleblowers inside and around the oil industry.

Narration: Dr Jeremy Leggett is part of an international splinter group of petroleum geologists convinced a tipping point on oil is imminent.

This former oil industry insider, now alternative energy advocate, has written a new book outlining the case.

It makes startling reading.

The most oil ever discovered was way back in 1965.

Narration: This graph traces world oil discoveries.

Since 1965, the amount of oil discovered each year has inexorably plunged - despite all our advances in technology.

Jeremy Leggett: The last time we discovered a whole new province was the North Sea in the early 1970�s and really you know these days the average size of an oil field that gets discovered is about 50 million barrels. It�s nothing, it�s a drop in the ocean. We�re using 84 million barrels a day.

The last year we discovered more oil than we consumed was 1981.
We use 2 barrels of oil for every barrel discovered.

Jeremy Leggett: I�ve been talking to people who I know because of my past in these big oil companies and they tell me there are no more big oil fields left to find.

Narration: So if we�ve found nearly all the world�s oil, how long before it runs out?

Surprisingly, that�s not so important. The real question is when will we reach half way � it�s known as 'peak oil'.

Jonica Newby, Reporter: So what exactly is peak oil, and why is it so serious? That�s what I�m heading to the west Australian oil fields to find out.

Narration: My guide is a geologist from deep within the oil industry. Eric Streitberg is managing director of Australian oil company, ARK energy.

He�s just decided to go public with his fears.

Eric Streitberg: The reason I feel strongly about this is that people don�t understand the underlying causes of why petrol prices are going up and what the effect that could have on our lives.

Narration: Eric is about to show me what happens when an oil field reaches peak oil.

Eric Streitberg: The oil field was discovered in 2001 and its now on full production doing about 6000 barrels of oil a day which is about 10% of Western Australia�s consumption.

Jonica Newby, Reporter: Wow: 10%.

Narration: When oil is first pumped, it�s under pressure and comes out easily � production rises.

But over time, oil pressure drops. Water is pumped in to maintain pressure. At the half way point, it reaches peak oil, and then-

Eric Streitberg: We�re holding on to peak production at the moment but we�ll be going into the inexorable decline of all oil fields very shortly.

Jonica Newby, Reporter: Really, and there�s nothing you can do?

Eric Streitberg: No you can slow the decline but you can�t stop it.

Narration: To ram home the point, Eric takes me to an oil field which passed peak oil in 1992.

Eric Streitberg: Jonica this is what we are getting out of this old oil well. It�s 99% water and 1% oil.

Narration: All oil fields follow the same pattern of rise, peak, then fall � even if they encompass an entire nation.

The US hit peak oil in 1971. The UK with its North Sea oil peaked in 1999. Australia peaked in 2000.

So when will planet earth reach peak oil?

That depends on what�s really happening here. The place that provides a quarter of the world's oil - the Middle East.

Jeremy Leggett: These governments have not let anyone in to verify how much oil they have for getting on for a quarter of a century and in the 1980�s there were some really suspicious treatment of oil reserves data. Most of the Gulf countries increased their national proved reserves supposedly by in some cases up to double, and then ever since the quoted figures have not gone down very much at all. I don�t believe that for a minute.

Narration: The dissident geologists went back to original surveys to estimate total Middle East oil. They added world known reserves, and projections of all future oil to be discovered.

That�s how they calculated the world will reach peak oil in the next 3 years � if we�re not there already.

Jeremy Leggett: 2008 maybe 2009, certainly no later than 2010. That�s the point at which we will no longer be living in a world with growing supplies of generally cheap oil but instead living in a world of rapidly shrinking supplies of ever vastly more expensive oil and that point of realisation is going to come as a real shock.

Then we will see world record oil prices. Who knows how high they can go.

Narration: So what does the mainstream think?

The world's largest petroleum company is ExxonMobil � Esso. It employs 20,000 scientists to generate their own exhaustive data sets.

In their Melbourne 3D seismography room, I meet head of exploration, geologist Dr Doug Schwebel.

Doug Schwebel: OK this is a 3 dimensional image of the geology offshore Bass Strait in Victoria.

Narration: Doug acknowledges oil will run down eventually, he just vigorously disputes when.

Doug Schwebel: Well people have been predicting for over a hundred years that we�re going to run out of oil. It hasn�t happened. We don�t think it�s going to happen in the near term.

Narration: Exxon calculates twice as much oil left in the world as the so called 'early peakers' - placing peak oil decades away.

Doug Schwebel: I mean we�re talking at least out to 2030 with what we know today. And then potentially another 20 � 30 years beyond that with technologies that we can envisage might exist. You know if we can improve technology by only 10% then we can recover an additional 600 � 800 billion barrels of oil.

Narration: If this majority view is correct, we have plenty of time for a smooth, market driven transition to alternatives via hybrid cars.

Cruising in the balm of this reassuring future, it's tempting to dismiss the 'early peak' camp entirely, as a small bunch of vested interest doomsdayers.

But it�s not that easy.

Petroleum giant Chevron is now running these startling advertisements.

And here in Australia, some surprising people have come out in the early peak camp.

Earlier this year, Eric Streitberg asked an extraordinary question at the Australian Petroleum Production and Exploration Association conference.

Eric Streitberg: I asked them to put up their hands if they thought that we had reached peak oil. Fifty percent of the people in the audience put up their hand saying that they believe we�re at peak oil and these are practicing petroleum industry professionals.

Narration: So what if they�re right?

This is what the early peak camp are terrified of � an apocalyptic gulf between dwindling supply and rising demand from the voracious east.

Jeremy Leggett: It�s panic that causes collapses in markets. People start selling their shares. That�s what happened in October 1929 and it just snowballs.

Eric Streitberg: Rationing - people having to queue for three days to get a tank full of petrol, people not being able to afford to heat their houses.

Peter Newman: Getting to 2 to 3 to 4 dollars a litre you really are grinding to a halt.

Narration: But couldn�t we just switch to alternatives � like solar cars or hydrogen?

Professor Peter Newman should know. He�s been trying to prepare his home town of Perth with a post-petroleum transport system - which includes Australia�s first hydrogen buses.

Peter Newman: This is a transition that can�t be done overnight. Hydrogen technology is being developed but it�s a 20 year program.

Jonica Newby, Reporter: Twenty years?

Peter Newman: Yeah, the next 20 years are an absolute critical point where I don�t know that we can make it. I just feel we haven�t started soon enough.

Narration: The trouble is, if peak oil is imminent, other mooted oil substitutes, like biofuels, tar sands, shale oil, could only yield a fraction of the world's needs.

And no one can think of an alternative fuel for aeroplanes.

Jeremy Leggett: So I�ve looked at it all and I don�t see a way of closing the gap quickly enough. That�s the honest and depressing answer. It�s all about renaissance. It�s all about how quickly we can repair the problems and get an alternative infrastructure after the crisis breaks.

Narration: Whether we reach the end of cheap oil in 3 years or 30, it will be a defining moment for human society.

Even if there�s only a one in ten chance the early peakers are right, with the lifeblood of our economy at stake, shouldn�t we listen, just in case.

Eric Streitberg: If people like myself are taking the view that they need to speak out, I think it�s time to start taking it seriously.

Peter Newman: We have lots of preparedness for terrorist attacks; but where�s the plan for peak oil? We don�t have one.

Jeremy Leggett: I think the interesting thing about the problem is that we�ll find out. We�ll find out who�s right really soon, within a few years it will happen and play out on our watch.

Story Contacts

Dr Doug Schwebel
Geologist
ExxonMobil

Barry Jones (the late)
Former Executive Director
Australian Petroleum Produciton Exploration Association (APPEA)

Dr Jeremy Leggett
Geologist / author

Eric Streitberg
Managing Director
ARC Energy

John Ellice-Flint
Managing Director
Santos

Prof. Peter Newman
Transport Academic
Murdoch University
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2008 � World oil production begins to decline,
stockmarkets crash, airlines bankrupt, and the
Greater Depression begins

www.eclipsenow.org � Welcome to the end of the oil age!

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 3:27 pm    Post subject: Re: ABC's "Catalyst" says NO PLAN FOR PEAK OIL! Reply with quote

The article is pretty interesting.
Actually, I am not concerned about running out of oil, which I don�t rule out. I am concerned about the people who are taking control of the most important producing countries. That is happening now and that could end up in a big war.
I trust in technology. I am sure scientists will discover or invent another source of power, but I don�t trust in the people who is now leadering the world.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The whole point of the article is that there IS no other source of power that does what oil does at the price it does it.

EG: The airlines are going bankrupt, our transport systems are going to have to become far more public, and the Hirsch Report to the US Department of Energy has concluded that it would take 20 years to wean off oil onto OTHER fossil fuels (such as coal liquefaction and gas-to-liquids programs).

Then we'd just reach peak gas and peak coal so much quicker.

The Greater Depression is coming. Get out of debt, and learn how to grow food closer to your home city.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 6:01 pm    Post subject: Peak Oil Crisis Reply with quote

This programme is very interesting. I agree that we should not trust the people who are taking control of oil supplies. They are only driven by money and not at all concerned about the good of all.
People all over the world are experiencing massive changes and need to wake up to the destructive results of those changes. So much fuel is wasted it is frightening. We no longer eat fresh food. Even if we try to do the right thing and buy "fresh" vegetables, thanks to free trade agreements most of our best quality fruit and vegetables are shipped overseas - by the time they reach the supermarkets of foreign lands, most of their nutrional value has gone. WE eat their export quality fresh fruit and vegetables and the same has happened with that=the goodness has gone. All to make more money. And the worst thing of all is - our health suffers. Why do so many people suffer from cancers and other terrible diseases ? Lack of nutrition is a good place to start looking. All that waste of fuel to transport our agricultural products when the best place to consume it is close to home as quickly as possible before the goodness is depleted. The programme also mentions the waste of oil on unnecessary items such as plastic products. We could go on for pages about the waste of fuel- when will we wake up to it ?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amen to that! Hit the nail right on the head.
We are going to be FORCED to grow food much closer to home... probably in our backyards for some of our nutrition! Shocked We may even all have to get composting toilets or look at mass sewer recycling systems so that we can keep the nutrients we normally flush out to sea. We will have to live without chemical fertilizers and pesticides after peak oil... and some say that it was the oil age that let 6 billion humans live on planet earth.

Malthusian catastrophe anyone?
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