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a_muslim_guy · Joined: 28 Sep 2005 Posts: 67

i said that there is a relation between Koran and Modern sceince ..

and here is a book talking about that ...

http://www.sultan.org/articles/QScience.html

read the book , and you'll enjoy it ....
i am not asking you to be muslims , just read the book .

this is the link for it : http://www.sultan.org/articles/QScience.html
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a_muslim_guy · Joined: 28 Sep 2005 Posts: 67

From scientific facts that are mentioned in Quran is :

a verse in Quran when it was talking about God's abilities in the universe :
" He released the two seas, meeting [side by side];Between them is a barrier [so] neither of them transgresses.

in Arabic : مرج البرحرين يلتقيان .. بينهما برزخ لا يبغيان (سورة الرحمن

it means the the two seas' (the red sea and the indian ocean) attributes are (diffrent but the seas are close) , and between the seas there is an area that is neither the same as the red sea nor the same as the indian ocean but in between and the water that comes from the indian ocean changes when passes through the area (Barrier) .

so if Mohamed was a arabian man who lived in the 500th century how did he knew this scientific fact ? did he discover it him self ? of course it cant be him but it is God who told him so he is not lying . he is a messenger from God.
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a_muslim_guy · Joined: 28 Sep 2005 Posts: 67

Another fact ..

a verse in Quran said -when it was talking about Solomon and David- : "Until, when they came upon the valley of the ants, an ant said, [O ants, enter your dwellings that you not be crushed by Solomon and his soldiers while they perceive not] "

in Arabic : ياأيها النمل ادخلوا مساكنكم ليحطنكم سليمان و جنوده و هم لا يشعرون (النمل

see the word "not be crushed by Solomon" . will ants be crusshed . No, ants won't be crushed . it was better to be said another word like (killed, ziped) but ants dont have a backbone to be crushed.
BUT look at the scientific fact that was mentioned ! . Ants contains a high percent of Glass or a substance that is similar to glass . so in Quran it was better to say Crushed .

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so if Mohamed was a arabian man who lived in the 500th century how did he knew this scientific fact ? did he discover it him self ? of course it cant be him but it is God who told him so he is not lying . he is a messenger from God.
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a_muslim_guy · Joined: 28 Sep 2005 Posts: 67

Another fact ..

in Quran when it was talking about the youth that slept in the cave ..
it said : "And you would think them awake, while they were asleep. And We turned them to the right and to the left, while their dog stretched his forelegs at the entrance. If you had looked at them, you would have turned from them in flight and been filled by them with terror."

in Arabic : لو اطلعت عليهم لوليت منهم فراراً و لملأت منهم رعبا (الكهف

look at the sentence " If you had looked at them, you would have turned from them in flight and been filled by them with terror"
when he said that you'll escape and be fitlled with terror. will you be afraid first or will you escape first ? it is supposed that you feel afraid first then you escape . But psycology scientists discovered that the reflex action it done before telling the brain . for example when your hands are put on fire you first get your hands out before you feel hot . because the pulses that comes from your nerve cells come first to the spinal cord then the reflex action is done then it tells the brain . so when Quran mentioned escaping first it was better.
also in the word "be filled with terror" : will you be filled with terror or you just feel afraid . because terror is just a feeling not a substance that you'll be filled with . BUT the fact is that when you feel afraid your heart pumps are increased and your blood gets out all the energy in it and your breath rate increases . Do you know why ? because the blood is filled with a substance came from the kednys tells the body that there is a danger . so when Quran said "be filled with terror" it was better to say that than just saying "feel afraid".

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so if Mohamed was a arabian man who lived in the 500th century how did he knew this scientific fact ? did he discover it him self ? of course it cant be him but it is God who told him so he is not lying . he is a messenger from God.
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a_muslim_guy · Joined: 28 Sep 2005 Posts: 67

Another fact ..

God said in Quran : "Or [they are] like darknesses within an unfathomable sea which is covered by waves, upon which are waves, over which are clouds � darknesses, some of them upon others. When one puts out his hand [therein], he can hardly see it. And he to whom Allāh has not granted light � for him there is no light."

in Arabic : او كظلمات فى بحر لجى يغشاه موج من فوقه موج من فوقه سحاب ظلمات بعضها فوق بعض إذا اخرج يده لم يكد يراها و من لم يجعل الله له نونر فما له من نور (النور 40

look at the whole verse :
first : "darkness" . of course there is darkness in the sea but you cant see it from the top of the sea . when you are in the sea deeper than 1 Km . Did mohamed go to the sea and got deeper than 1 Km so he recognized the darkness ?! or God told him ?
second : "unfathomable sea" . it means a sea that is very very deep . (the word in arabic is more better) . however . did Mohamed go to the sea and recognized that the sea is too deep . also people who went to the sea didnt know that the sea was too deep . they only used sea for sailing. so who told mohamed that the sea is too deep. ? it must be God .
third : "covered by waves, upon which are waves, over which are clouds" . who told mohamed that the sea has waves under the surface ? it must be God .
forth : "darknesses, some of them upon others" . when light enters water it decomposes to the 7 colors . then after 100 m the red light disappears so you dont see red color (you see the blood black) . then after 500 Km the orange light disappears (now you see oranges as black and also you see blood black) . then after 1000 Km the blue light disappears . then after other Kms the green light disappears , then yellow disappears then ...... then all lights disappear . so when Quran said "darknesses, some of them upon others" it meant the darkness of the red over the darkness of orange over ....... etc . so did mohamed go to the sea and kept decomposing light ? who told him ? it must be God .
fifth : " When one puts out his hand [therein], he can hardly see it" . in the deep places in the sea not all the colors are provided as we said before . so when you look at your hand you cant see it clearly because your hand's color is made up of several colors and not all of them are provided . so you can hardly see it . so did Mohamed go to the sea and tried to look at his hands ?! , who told him about this fact ? it must be God .

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so if Mohamed was a arabian man who lived in the 500th century how did he knew this scientific fact ? did he discover it him self ? of course it cant be him but it is God who told him so he is not lying . he is a messenger from God.
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a_muslim_guy · Joined: 28 Sep 2005 Posts: 67

there are more and more fact in Quran . Now what do you think about Quran when you read this ?
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red_rose · Joined: 23 Nov 2005 Posts: 5

that is amazing!!.. islam is amazing!!... being a muslim is amazing cuz i feel that way!!.. thank u brother for sharing these precious facts and i just hope ppl will realize the truth! Smile

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a_muslim_guy · Joined: 28 Sep 2005 Posts: 67

A fact in Quran...

God Said �O company of jinn and mankind if yuo are able to pass the regions of the heavens and the earth then pass , youl ont pass except with authority [from Allah]� .

in Arabic : يا معشر الجن و الإنس إن استطعتم ان تنفذوا من اقطار السماوات و الأرضض فإنفذو لا تنفذون إلا بسلطن (الرحمن

The word regions in Arabic it is mentioned in Quran as circumfrances.
At the time of Mohamed people thought that earth is flat . but when an arabian man lived 1420 years ago and say that earth is round how come except that God told him.

So ....
if Mohamed was a arabian man who lived in the 500th century how did he knew this scientific fact ? did he discover it him self ? of course it cant be him but it is God who told him so he is not lying . he is a messenger from God.
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a_muslim_guy · Joined: 28 Sep 2005 Posts: 67

in Quran ...
God said �the Byzantines have been defeated @ in the lowest land but they after their defeat will overcome�

in Arabic : غلبت الروم فى ادنى الأرض و هم من بعد غلبهم سيغلبون (الروم

Geologists discovered that the deepest place on earth is the place where Byzantines existed .

So, if Mohamed was a arabian man who lived in the 500th century how did he knew this scientific fact ? did he discover it him self ? of course it cant be him but it is God who told him so he is not lying . he is a messenger from God.
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a_muslim_guy · Joined: 28 Sep 2005 Posts: 67

Mohamed Said that if a Dog eat or drink in a plate then wash the plate with dust.
In the Modern era , a Biology scientist tried all kinds of washing powders tring to clean a plate when a Dog ate in it then he searches for germs in the plate , he found that there is no way to clean the plate except with dust .
Did Mohamed had a microscope and saw germs , did he knew chemistry and biology . who told him about this ? did it came by chance ? !! it must be God .
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scipio · Joined: 22 Dec 2005 Posts: 55 Location: spaced out

Islam & modern science.....hmmmm why there is no modern science in islam. well, just check muslim guys posts, and you will see why islam has not contibuted to science in 500 years. The culture of ignorance and fanaticism.

how many arabs have won the nobel prize? any answers...hmmm not many....one wonders why?

Dear muslim guy pls stay at home in your wretched country
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a_muslim_guy · Joined: 28 Sep 2005 Posts: 67

isalm_spirit · Joined: 29 Dec 2005 Posts: 8

hi all

peace upon u all

fantastic topic my brother muslim guy.

hi scipio

u asked aquestion .....really the answer is so simple.

where is the muslims in 2005 .....where is modern science in islam??

ok....f u dont here about great scientests who joined islam when they saw miracles that quran sayed from 1400 years ......it was so simple for them 2 know that these words must b the word of allah.

and it is what ur scientists said about the science in islam

http://www.4newmuslims.org/about.htm

and it is agreat web about the miracles in islam

http://www.harunyahya.com/

so.....there r modern sciences and miracles in science still appear in quran???
yes....and no one can deny these.

so .....y r the muslems r sleeping??

these return to the great efforts of western to make muslim in these ignornce by the aid of presidents of islamic countries who killed all the types of creations nd inventions in muslims.......the money that must go to creation they take it in their pocket.

and f the muslims take the chance to prove the modern science in islam .....b sure that they will b the first.......like ahmad zowail .....and like the andalus (spain now).....it was agreat sample for the islamic science.

see u

scipio · Joined: 22 Dec 2005 Posts: 55 Location: spaced out

good · Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 14 Location: asia

oh! scipio

it is clear for everyone that a muslim guy is not forcing u to join Islam that up to u. his point is to add to your knowledge only and it seems that u did not read his topic .WHAT ASHAMING.

stop criticizing without reading Laughing

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