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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 7:07 pm    Post subject: translation from Japanese (2) Reply with quote

Hello everyone.

The sentence below is a translation that I made from a sentence in Japanese. For the blank, I think #1 is grammatically correct, but is #2 also natural English?

It would be wrong to judge immediately that young people today ( ) less intellectual curiosity because they read fewer books.

1. had
2. have

If you find any error in my English, please let me know.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"have" is present tense

"had" is past tense
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:11 pm    Post subject: Re: translation from Japanese (2) Reply with quote

Thank you for your reply, ab.

Do I understand you mean #2, not #1, is grammatically correct?

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think "have" here is much better. Beacuse if you say "people today had less..." , it sounds kind of weird.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you want to use had because the sentence contains would, don't you? But when we use It would be wrong to judge/say/think it follows a different rule and so you should use have.

In other words, it is not the same as the would & if structure.

That isn't to say that you can't use had. For example:

It would be wrong to judge immediately that young people in the past had more intellectual curiosity just because they read more books.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for your replies, Lucas Scott and Airth.

Airth wrote:
I think you want to use had because the sentence contains would, don't you?


Yes, you are right, Airth.

How about this then?
Is #1 more natural for the blank in the sentence below this time?

It would be wrong if you judged immediately that young people today ( ) less intellectual curiosity because they read fewer books.

1. had
2. have

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It would be wrong if you judged immediately that young people today ( ) less intellectual curiosity because they read fewer books.

1. had
2. have


While I prefer your original sentence, in this case I would go with had without hesitation. Incidently, I would rather say jump to the conclusion in place of judge immediately.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Airth.

Your comment really helps.

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