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someday



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 7:37 pm    Post subject: ordering pretzels or ice cream Reply with quote

Today, I was ordering pretzels at a store, and wanted to order 4 of them: three with butter, sugar and cinnamon and one with only butter. I wondered how to say these toppings for the pretzels. I said �four pretzels, please� first, and while the employee was putting them in the oven, several ideas came to my mind. They are as follows:

1. Butter, sugar and cinnamon for three and only butter for (the last) one
2. Butter, sugar and cinnamon on three and only butter on (the last) one
3. Three with butter, sugar and cinnamon and one with only (just) butter.

When he asked how I would like them, to my disappointment, however, I ended up saying �butter, sugar and cinnamon, please.�

Basically, two things bothered me.
One is, for whatever the reason is, I feel very awkward to say ��(butter) for one.�
Do I have to put the quantity first and the features next or the opposite?

Probably, I might keep encountering these similar kinds of situations later on like at an ice cream parlor, at a pizza store, at a coffee shop or at a restaurant, especially, if I accompany friends or some family members and need to order for them. For example, if I order some ice cream for my friends, several situations may be possible as follows:
If I order two ice cream cones, I might say, �I would like two ice cream cones, one with strawberries and another one with chocolate. It I order three, �I would like three ice cream cones, one with strawberries, one with chocolates and one with blueberries.
If I order five, �I would like five ice cream cones, two with blackberries and three with pineapples. In this case, I feel more comfortable saying the quantity first and the features next. Is this okay, any errors?

The other concern is about the choice of prepositions. I am not sure whether I have to use �for� or �on� for pretzels as in 1 and 2 above. What about ice cream? Could I say �chocolate and strawberries for two or on two� or �two with chocolate and strawberries?�

As always, thanks.
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Lorikeet



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 2:39 am    Post subject: Re: ordering pretzels or ice cream Reply with quote

someday wrote:
Today, I was ordering pretzels at a store, and wanted to order 4 of them: three with butter, sugar and cinnamon and one with only butter. I wondered how to say these toppings for the pretzels. I said �four pretzels, please� first, and while the employee was putting them in the oven, several ideas came to my mind. They are as follows:

1. Butter, sugar and cinnamon for three and only butter for (the last) one
2. Butter, sugar and cinnamon on three and only butter on (the last) one
3. Three with butter, sugar and cinnamon and one with only (just) butter.

When he asked how I would like them, to my disappointment, however, I ended up saying �butter, sugar and cinnamon, please.�

Basically, two things bothered me.
One is, for whatever the reason is, I feel very awkward to say ��(butter) for one.�
Do I have to put the quantity first and the features next or the opposite?


I think all three of your examples are possible. I prefer "on" to "for" but I think it is still possible. "The last" is okay in and okay out. You can use either "only" or "just," but not both.

I prefer the third of your examples.

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...if I order some ice cream for my friends, several situations may be possible as follows:
If I order two ice cream cones, I might say, �I would like two ice cream cones, one with strawberries and another one with chocolate. It I order three, �I would like three ice cream cones, one with strawberries, one with chocolates and one with blueberries.
If I order five, �I would like five ice cream cones, two with blackberries and three with pineapples. In this case, I feel more comfortable saying the quantity first and the features next. Is this okay, any errors?


I'd like two ice cream cones; one with strawberry and one with chocolate.
I'd like three ice cream cones; one with strawberry, one with chocolate, and one with blueberry.
I'd like five ice cream cones; two with blackberry and three with pineapple.

I wouldn't use any plurals with ice cream flavors. I think it is because "strawberry" is used as an adjective, and it is short for, "I'd like an ice cream cone with strawberry ice cream on it." If you say "strawberries," I think of the fruit.

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Could I say �chocolate and strawberries for two or on two� or �two with chocolate and strawberries?�


If you said "chocolate and strawberries on two" I would think you were having chocolate ice cream with strawberries (the fruit). If you said, "Chocolate and strawberry on two" I would think that you ordered two cones, each of them with both chocolate and strawberry ice cream.
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