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RedRose



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 7:00 am    Post subject: No sex until you get married? Reply with quote

can you do that? I couldn't. and I don't see why it is right.

Date back to 15 years ago, in China, if you had sex before you got married, then it's a shame for you and your family, definitely.

IMHO, that's so stupid! some girls didn't know that their future husbands were impotent until they got married. even those impotent men didn't know that until they got married.

I can list tons of reasons to prove the thesis is ridiculous. unfortunately, now in China, the same case still exists in some remote places. and many young people become the victims of the phenomenon.

What do you think? guys? in your country, is it the same?
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eda



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's partly same here. There are even some cases of murders about this issue(in some remote parts as you said)

They consider this as the most important aspect of virtue,ethic...
My own opinion about this is not as strict as theirs.I think virtue should considered in only head, not in maidenhead....
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eda wrote:

They consider this as the most important aspect of virtue,ethic...
My own opinion about this is not as strict as theirs.I think virtue should considered in only head, not in maidenhead....


WOW!!! this is the most wonderful sentence I've heard in last 20 years!!
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eda



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks.
I sometimes get really angry about this issue.Especially what is going on in some developing countries..Women are abused and then killed for this silly reason.Then what about men?They can do whatever they want but it doestn matter...it is a mad world!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Germany, it is not a shame when young girls have sex early. And here, the sex issure is told very early in the school, which leads young girls in having children very early. And then the husband goes away from her very early.

Do you think this is good? Can you say that policy about when to having sex is good, or not, anyway?
I can't.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

high School students should avoid cohabitation. because they are too young to deal with those complicated relationships, and as Admiral said, if those high school girls get pregnant, and when their boyfriends get away, those girls would become the final victims of the relationship.

However, on the thread, what I mean is adult relationship. if a couple of adults cohabit, first of all, they have to learn the way of conception control. and that's easy. after all, if they get pregnant and the men are not responsible, it would also be harmful to women. but that shouldn't be the reason against cohabitation of adults.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you mean there is no problem when the wife sleeps with someone else than her own husband, or the husband sleeps with someone else than his wife?

Oh, if you mean this, I don't really think so, because then the whole institution about marrying won't make sense. But still the registery office gives a possibility to get distanced if two people changed after years that they don't have feelings for each other.

Or do you mean that sex before marriage should be legalised? Here, I also say that's ok, because one should find out which boyfriend/girlfriend really fits to him. And in this case, practice is much better than only theories.

A marriage should be worth the try, so the wife should be the right one.

And whether she has had sex before or not, I think it shouldn't really matter, as long as she is still pretty.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

admiral wrote:
Or do you mean that sex before marriage should be legalised?

hey, sex before marriage isn't illegal, so why should it have to be legalized?!

I think it's everyone's own opinion if he want to have sex before marriage or not. i respect it if anyone says he doesn't want to have sex before he's married, but only when that's really his own opinion and not prompted.
I myself am not of the opinion that I have to wait until I'm married to have sex. of course there's the problem of getting pregnant, but hey, it's not that difficult to prevent, is it? Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 5:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, you are right, I used the incongruous word. Better is "wholly accepted morally".
Preventing is still a bad problem. But if girls understand how to do, I also think it's ok.
Mr. Green Men shouldn't blame their wife only because he came a little late.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi! if you are from Turkey,you can understand what a important issue for Turks.because Turkish culture tells;no sex before getting married!but I hate this keen prohibition!but however i think age of having sex shouldnt be as low as 15!!!!!!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

admiral wrote:
Do you mean there is no problem when the wife sleeps with someone else than her own husband, or the husband sleeps with someone else than his wife?


I never mean this Shocked

I mean, simply, if a couple love each other, then they should sleep together, and they don't have to get married. of course, if they wanna get married, that's ok. if they don't want to, then it is still ok. it is just a matter of choice.

I know a couple of lovers, both are 34 years old. they don't wanna get married, but they live together, and they look very happy. in China, this kind of case is very rare. because most Chinese people have no freedom to live by their own thoughts. therefore, some people told me:"that man is fooling around with that woman!! just see, he dosen't wanna marry her, that's the point! and that woman even dosen't know the point!" I answered:"I don't think so! they don't wanna get married, maybe that's just because they don't want marriage. that dosen't mean that they don't love each other. since they love each other, why can't they have sex?"
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

buki wrote:
hi! if you are from Turkey,you can understand what a important issue for Turks.because Turkish culture tells;no sex before getting married!but I hate this keen prohibition!but however i think age of having sex shouldnt be as low as 15!!!!!!greets Smile


haha! you mean, it should be lower than 15? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

quote]

haha! you mean, it should be lower than 15? Very Happy[/quote]

Razz Razz Razz
is it possible?

also buki :i am from Turkey too.But as you know it isnt as strict as before.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eda wrote:
thanks.
I sometimes get really angry about this issue.Especially what is going on in some developing countries..Women are abused and then killed for this silly reason.Then what about men?They can do whatever they want but it doestn matter...it is a mad world!

oh, no, you are wrong, eda. do you know, I'm vietnamese guy and vietnam is a developing country. I wonder why you had suh bad impression about developing countries. Now is the period of equality between men and women. had gone the time in which the men treat badly to women.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phuc, China is a developing country too, but sexism still exists in China.

As eda described, in some developing countries, if a woman has sex before marriage, she would be thought as "s*lut", "b*itch" or something like that. but if a man dose so, it is totally fine!!<------- that's sexism! and that's stupid!


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