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[leozhengbo]

There are some important steps took by the PRC Army, because Taiwan's leader had made a terrible dicision in order to get independent gradually.That is not Chinese want to see.

If the war began , will Japan take action or join the war to help Taiwan, will America do something ?What's your opinion?
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BMW is called "宝马� in China,which means "precious horse", now it is produced by the hands of Chinese.

[mingping]

As the globe is advancing, the war becomes more and more relative with the economy. Take China's high speed of growth in economy, I think theree is a very few possibilities to start the war.

[leozhengbo]

Wonderful reply, thank u.
when mainland becomes stronge (especially in econmy)enough , Taiwanese would go back to us.
but the world is not so safe, the USA army go where they want to , they use missiles , cannons, weak countries are their targets. I don't want China to be the target of the USA , fortunately we have improved our strength ,we are afraid of nothing.
when you are wake , then war could sleep, when you sleep , war wakes up. so preparation is the best weapon to win every war.
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BMW is called "宝马� in China,which means "precious horse", now it is produced by the hands of Chinese.

[KHF]

Constant threat of military interference is one of the major reasons why most Taiwanese still remain skeptical of the Chinese intention. It only shows that the Chinese government lacks the respect towards the Taiwanese people as a whole. With peace as its slogan but war as its tool, China is in fact a greater threat to Taiwan than the US.

Although the ROC probably will not be able to repel a full invasion by the PROC, it is quite possible the PROC will sustain critical loss as well. The American government might be arrogant and manipulative, but they are not stupid. If the US decides to take the Taiwanese side, a declaration of war on China is most likely not going to happen. Instead, the US will take the cold war approach and supply Taiwan with armaments and intelligence. As much as you want to believe it, the Chinese military is not invincible. A well placed JDAM volley could cripple an entire fleet, and without the control of the sea, it will be exceedingly difficult to mount an amphibious assault.

[Napoleon]

I don't think it's a wise and reasonable decision for ROC to fully declare a independence.

Maybe people in Taiwan dislike Com. Party, but the current problem is not created by the mainland. The mainland side is trying to offer a decent solution to Taiwan, letting the ROC has full control over its economic, cultural and even the military. Only requirement is YOU don't declare a independence, no body want to bother taiwan people. But taiwan side is just enjoying risking a constant independent trial to play with the mainland.

As Jane's article depicted, Chinese are making subs as fast as making hotdog, and Chinese are buying Su35 and producing Su27 meantime. All these weapon development seems to be a short term solution. Due to my observation is all Chinese BBS, most of Chinese mainland people will support a crushing millitary action if the Taiwan really declare a fully rebellion. A widely folk idiom "We'll take Taiwan back, even a burned one"

BTW don't trust US will help them out, who knows if american is willing sacrifice Walmart's buz to support Taiwan. Maybe they already set the trigger line.

Personally, I am not a warmonger, so I believe if they(taiwan independent activists) do it, they are fully responsible for what they did.

[KHF]

The key idea of your opinion is "condition". What the Taiwanese want is to choose WITHOUT the PROC telling them what they can choose. I fail to see why in this context the problem is not caused by PROC. Say someone points a gun at you then tells you that as long as you do what he wishes, you won't have to die. Do you consider that acceptable? Say if you refuse to do what he wants and he shoots you dead. I suppose you are telling me that's your own fault then? If the one with a bigger fist sets the rules and the others can only play along, why do we even bother thinking about the morality of one's actions?

A rash declaration of independence is perhaps unwise (judging from the apparently violent tendency of the Chinese policies), but the desire for independence is not. What exactly is bad about an independent Taiwan for the Taiwanese? Further, what exactly is good about reunification for them? That is the real question in the issue, not what PROC wants to do.

[leozhengbo]

[leozhengbo]

[foryoubill]

I hope the world will be always in peace.

[KHF]

[joonstar]

[Napoleon]

[joonstar]

[Napoleon]

[joonstar]

Bush invaded Irag. He now has it as a burned one.