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pavilion
Joined: 09 Mar 2006
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 Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:00 am Post subject: |
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| pugachevV wrote: |
When you only have two parties in your political system it tends to polarise the electorate.
All the Democrats hate Bush, but Kerry would have been no better, probably.
The fact is Bush WAS elected. |
At least the second time, it was fairly legit. We all know the Gore should have been elected in 2000 though.
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| The Democrats have many supporters in the media so there is a relentless attack on TV, in the press, and on radio against just about everything Bush does. |
I am sorry, but I sick of hearing about "liberal bias" in the news. It's just not true. Most news is centrist! If you want a news station that caters to Bush, watch FOX news.
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America's enemies understand that if they can hold out long enough the Democrats will be elected and will run away from the Middle East, just as they ran away from Somalia, Lebanon, etc..
America's problem is that when they go to war, they go with one hand tied behind their back because of gutless politicians.
If you are going to war at all - and it should be a last resort- you go full out. |
It's because Democrats see that Bush lied and was intent on invading Iraq from the get-go. It has nothing to do with being gutless, we just don't like seeing our troops die for a bullsh*t reason. Everyone, including Democrats, supported Afghanistan, but Bush and his Republican cronies felt it was better to not finish the job in Afghanistan and invade Iraq. |
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Outofin
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| Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 11:35 am Post subject: |
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| Interesting. Where does the question come from? Until officials announce and prove Bin Laden's death, or when the time comes that he can't be naturally alive as a normal human after many years, we should assume he's alive. |
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asterix
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| Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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| I watch the US news. There is a bias. |
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mingping
Joined: 23 Feb 2006
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| Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:50 pm Post subject: Interesting |
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I think pavilion and pugachevV both come from USA. If so, in their communication, I can find that USA has so many people hold with completely different opinions, which is a result a freedom, pursuit target of USA.
I don't know if there is a bias exisiting in USA's media, and I just wanna say that the media is better than China's.
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| Where does the question come from? Until officials announce and prove Bin Laden's death, or when the time comes that he can't be naturally alive as a normal human after many years, we should assume he's alive. |
Maybe you are right.
But I think USA has announced that Bin Laden is dead, which is not persuadable to many people. That's a problem. |
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Outofin
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| Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:09 pm Post subject: Re: Interesting |
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| mingping wrote: |
But I think USA has announced that Bin Laden is dead, which is not persuadable to many people. That's a problem. |
I'm a little confused. I've never heard of this. Could you provide a link or tell me where you heard this?  |
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pavilion
Joined: 09 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:21 pm Post subject: Re: Interesting |
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| mingping wrote: |
I think pavilion and pugachevV both come from USA. If so, in their communication, I can find that USA has so many people hold with completely different opinions, which is a result a freedom, pursuit target of USA.
I don't know if there is a bias exisiting in USA's media, and I just wanna say that the media is better than China's. |
I am not sure if pugachevV is an American or not, so I cannot say. You are right about people holding differing opinions here. Diversity is a good thing. 
The difference between US' and China's media is that China's is filtered through the government, whereas the US' isn't.
| mingping wrote: |
Maybe you are right.
But I think USA has announced that Bin Laden is dead, which is not persuadable to many people. That's a problem. |
Nope, the US never announced his death. They haven't found him yet because the effectively gave up looking for him. If he was, Bush would keep using it as political capital. |
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Outofin
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| Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:24 pm Post subject: Re: Interesting |
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| pavilion wrote: |
Nope, the US never announced his death. They haven't found him yet because the effectively gave up looking for him. If he was, Bush would keep using it as political capital. |
Okay, now I'm relieved. I didn't miss a big news. Regarding censorship, the point here seems to be, people without proper new sources tend to believe rumors. |
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pavilion
Joined: 09 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:34 pm Post subject: Re: Interesting |
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| Outofin wrote: |
| Okay, now I'm relieved. I didn't miss a big news. Regarding censorship, the point here seems to be, people without proper new sources tend to believe rumors. |
Yep, you didn't miss anything! |
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leozhengbo
Joined: 28 Feb 2006
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Location: Zhejiang province, China
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| Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 11:00 pm Post subject: Re: Interesting |
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| pavilion wrote: |
I am not sure if pugachevV is an American or not, so I cannot say. You are right about people holding differing opinions here. Diversity is a good thing.
The difference between US' and China's media is that China's is filtered through the government, whereas the US' isn't.
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Diversity is the power which will change the society to be a more beautiful place.
we all have the right to express our own opinions, that's what we are .
I love talking , and love listening to others, even their opinions opposing mine.
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pavilion
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| Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 11:13 pm Post subject: Re: Interesting |
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| leozhengbo wrote: |
Diversity is the power which will change the society to be a more beautiful place.
we all have the right to express our own opinions, that's what we are .
I love talking , and love listening to others, even their opinions opposing mine. |
I agree with you! I am the same way. I like how you think!  |
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pugachevV
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| Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 5:42 am Post subject: |
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Americans are patriotic, but it does not stop them from being critical when they think their government is wrong.
Some enemies of the USA, such as Bin Laden and his psychotic friends, have been deluded into thinking this gives them a chance to defeat America, somehow.
Any enemy of the USA will find that when they are hard-pressed, the old political division between the Republicans and the Democrats will be forgotten and they will face a united America that their puny efforts will find very difficult to deal with.
I am not American - sometimes your former enemies earn your respect. |
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