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Chan-Seung Lee



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 5:35 pm    Post subject: Try as hard as he could Reply with quote

'Try as hard as he could, he just couldn't throw the ball into the net.'

In the above sentence, I guess 'Try as hard as he could' means 'Although he tried as hard as he could'.
Am I right? If I am right, can you explain why even though 'Try as hard as he could' is imperative mood, it exhibits conjunction or 'although'? In addition, I'd like you to give me another example.

Thanks.
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pinenut



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 7:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Try as hard as he could Reply with quote

Chan-Seung Lee wrote:
'Try as hard as he could, he just couldn't throw the ball into the net.'

In the above sentence, I guess 'Try as hard as he could' means 'Although he tried as hard as he could'.
Am I right? If I am right, can you explain why even though 'Try as hard as he could' is imperative mood, it exhibits conjunction or 'although'? In addition, I'd like you to give me another example.

Thanks.


Perhaps, you should rewrite your sentence to make it more in line with grammar:

Trying as hard as he could, he just couldn't throw the ball into the net.
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Mister Micawber



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Try as hard as he could


This is one of a small and dwindling group of set phrases using the 'formulaic subjunctive' consisting of the base form of the verb. Others are:

Be that as it may
Come what may
Suffice it to say

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LucentShade



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I interpret this as meaning, "No matter how hard he tried, he just..." Pinenut, the sentence is grammatical, although as Mister Micawber says, it's not a common structure in modern English. Another similar example that I can think of is "Say what you will, I refuse to work with him" = "No matter what you say, I refuse to work with him."
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