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Marine



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 2:31 am    Post subject: A moving ture Story Reply with quote

A moving story!
It's reported that a constant wife had took care of her disabled husband for 31 years and now they became old man as time pass by. The constant wife was very beautiful when she was young and fell in love with the young man who was the prentice of her elder brother. One year late, they got married. But an accident had happened to the young man, he fell down to the ground when he was working in the building and disabled. He could neither do hard works nor took care of himself. From that time his wife stated taking the whole burden of the family although she was pregnant. She worked hard in the day for money and took care of her husband back home. Everyday she read the newspaper for her husband. Although sometime her husband would shout at her because of upsetting due to disable, but she never thought of leaving him. She said " It is my responsibility to take the burden and take care of her husband whose injury was not due to his fault." What a great woman! Now they all are old and their girl grow up and take the place of her mother to earn money for the firm family. The old woman keep reading newspaper for her husband and taking care of him.
What a great woman! What a great wife! What a great mother!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be honest, I think that the woman could have had a nice alternative over the recent one. Firstly, the husband couldn't have sex with her, that means that he was not an actual husband, so it's unfair for the woman to stand the sexless life for 30 years!! and she's so beautiful!!

IMO, she could have married someone else and meantime taken care of her ex-husband as a sister or something, after all, she's not his actual wife since he's disable.

If I were the husband, I would have asked my wife to marry someone else, I shouldn't have deprived her right of enjoying sex life.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, Redrose, your choise is reasonable and most people (wifes) might take the choise as you do. But what is worshipful is that she took the choise was very hard to do.
For me, I might take the choise as the worshipful wife. Because I would not break the poor man/woman's heart and hurt him/her again since he/she was hurt.
Sex is important to a sweet family, but it can be resolved in other way, I think.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yeah, Redrose, your choise is reasonable and most people (wifes) might take the choise as you do. But what is worshipful is that she took the choise was very hard to do.
For me, I might take the choise as the worshipful wife. Because I would not break the poor man/woman's heart and hurt him/her again since he/she was hurt.
Sex is important to a sweet family, but it can be resolved in other way, I think.


You are an idealist indeed. however, the life is realistic.

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Sex is important to a sweet family, but it can be resolved in other way, I think


what do you mean? you mean, by masturbating? I don't think it would work.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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what do you mean? you mean, by masturbating? I don't think it would work.


why not?

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You are an idealist indeed. however, the life is realistic.


Yeah, I am.
And I think the satisfication in spirit is more important than the need of material.
I can work and live in a hard environment but I can't live without ideality.
Do you think so?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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what do you mean? you mean, by masturbating? I don't think it would work.


why not?

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You are an idealist indeed. however, the life is realistic.


Yeah, I am.
And I think the satisfication in spirit is more important than the need of material.
I can work and live in a hard environment but I can't live without ideality.
Do you think so?


I don't think so. after all, masturbation isn't real sex life.

You think the story is moving, but I definitely think it's very cruel and the husband is pretty selfish.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RR Where u got that "the husband couldn't have sex with her"? U think that Sex always, is a hard work for men? Anyway you have yucky and perverted thoughts, It was nice topic about great love or so, but you start talking about sex... Like there is too few it, in internet and tv. You don't think, that this story shows, that sex is not allways all..
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hardi wrote:
RR Where u got that "the husband couldn't have sex with her"? U think that Sex always, is a hard work for men? Anyway you have yucky and perverted thoughts, It was nice topic about great love or so, but you start talking about sex... Like there is too few it, in internet and tv. You don't think, that this story shows, that sex is not allways all..


The husband is disable and he even can't take care of himself, how can he have sex with his wife?

yeah, sex isn't always all, but for a couple, it is a very important part of their relationship. if you think my thought is yucky or something, it's ok, you can say anything. but I guess you are not a sincere person, maybe you don't learn life that much.

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It was nice topic about great love or so, but you start talking about sex.


who says that a nice topic should always avoid to talk about sex? sex is so ugly and dirty? where are you from by the way? actually, we are all from sex. when I see some people try to drive themselves up by debasing sex, I just can't help thinking they are hypocrites.

Sorry for my sincerity.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The husband is disable and he even can't take care of himself, how can he have sex with his wife?


There were many styles that the couple could choose to make love. Maybe they could choose a style that the wife control the rhythm. And maybe the couple were not so anxious for sex.

Without talking about sex, I want to know how would the woman do this?
And just as Hardi said,
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sex is not allways all!

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marine wrote:
There were many styles that the couple could choose to make love. Maybe they could choose a style that the wife control the rhythm.


I wish!!

but your previous point didn't seem like this one you just said. remember? you even thought masturbating would be ok with the poor wife. Right now, under a precondition: if the husband was sexually disable. I still wanna ask you the same question: Do you really think it is great that a woman stands a sexless life for 30 years just because she has to take care of her husband ? really great? Come on!! great for him! not for her!!


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And maybe the couple were not so anxious for sex
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haha! sorry again for my sincerity! you are toooo naive!! Maybe??? unless the wife was sexually disable too. Maybe that's your nice wish, but unfortunately, the woman was healthy. IF she was sexually disable too, then the story wouldn't be as moving as you described, it's just a story about coincidence. nothing more. Wink

Marine wrote:

Without talking about sex, I want to know how would the woman do this?
And just as Hardi said,
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sex is not allways all!


without talking about sex, then the story would be really moving, as much as you wish.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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if the husband was sexually disable. I still wanna ask you the same question: Do you really think it is great that a woman stands a sexless life for 30 years just because she has to take care of her husband ? really great? Come on!! great for him! not for her!!

What does Great mean? Great means somebody done something that common people can't do and are worth praising. The uncommon thing usually was considered very ordinary by the man who did it. So the man was called Great.
You insisted on the important of sex between couple , but why don't you take into consideration that the sexless life maybe very common to them and the wife did not "STAND" the life without sex. She can do the thing you/I can do. So I think she is very great!
For the poor family, the most difficulty was not sex, but other living elements, I think!

Have you ever seen someone who even can't have a full dinner always desire sex? RedRose!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marine wrote:
What does Great mean? Great means somebody done something that common people can't do and are worth praising. The uncommon thing usually was considered very ordinary by the man who did it. So the man was called Great. !


OMG!! what the hell are you talking about??? Laughing

For your imformation, great means somebody done something that common people can't do and are worth praising. haha!! again!! worth praising for sexless life when a woman is very young? that's your definition for great?? sorry, I still think your definition is too bitter for that poor woman. certainly you never think of her feelings, I mean, her feelings as a woman.

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You insisted on the important of sex between couple , but why don't you take into consideration that the sexless life maybe very common to them and the wife did not "STAND" the life without sex. She can do the thing you/I can do. So I think she is very great!
For the poor family, the most difficulty was not sex, but other living elements, I think!


wow!! the sex life maybe is very common for a disable husband??? where did you get the ridiculous point? haha! instead, you should have said:"the sex life must be very impossible and luxurious for the couple!!" . that would be logical.

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For the poor family, the most difficulty was not sex, but other living elements, I think!


Ok, let's see your point here: The poor wife has to take care of her husband, and she keeps working hard, but she can just gain less money, so she has a problem with living. then, Dose that mean that she deserves a sexless life for 30 years??? I don't see what is the link between being kind and suffering from a poor and sexless life, do you?

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Have you ever seen someone who even can't have a full dinner always desire sex?


Again, when people are starving, they seldom think about sex. But right now, we are talking about the woman who can neither have good dinners nor sex life, and that's because she is a GREAT woman!!! do you think that makes sense?? if your answer is yes, then sorry for your cold heart.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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For your imformation, great means somebody done something that common people can't do and are worth praising. haha!! again!! worth praising for sexless life when a woman is very young? that's your definition for great?? sorry, I still think your definition is too bitter for that poor woman. certainly you never think of her feelings, I mean, her feelings as a woman.


But where did I point out that sexless life for a young wowan was worth praising, RR? why don't you just get the point that a wife had taken care of her husband for 31 years instead of left him alone was worth praising. Of cause, she could take the choise of leaving him and marry and other man, if she did so, I felt it was reasonable and I also respected her, but she did not, So I felt she was great!

And again back to the detail of sex, why do you think they could not be satisfied with their sex life because he was disable but maybe not sexaully disable? we can't get the detail!

Yeah, for you or for me, and maybe for most people, sexless life are bitter and unendurable, but there must be exception. If the couple did have sexless life for 31 years, I felt very sorry.

By the way, I can't see the clear link between the satisfiable sex life and a couple with the husband being disable.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marine wrote:

But where did I point out that sexless life for a young wowan was worth praising, RR? why don't you just get the point that a wife had taken care of her husband for 31 years instead of left him alone was worth praising. Of cause, she could take the choise of leaving him and marry and other man, if she did so, I felt it was reasonable and I also respected her, but she did not, So I felt she was great!.


This point is that you have the different definition for great than I do. You think it's great for a woman to take care of her husband and live a bitter life. but I don't think so. IMO, she could have had a nice alternative: To marry someone else and meantime take care of her husband as a sister or family or something. she didn't have to sacrifice her sex life as such a bitter price.Certainly, you must not have thought about the woman's feelings that much, you just saw the exterior phenomenon. and that's very superficial, IMHO.

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And again back to the detail of sex, why do you think they could not be satisfied with their sex life because he was disable but maybe not sexaully disable? we can't get the detail!


Just like I told you before, if they had good sex life, then the story was absolutely moving, as much as you wish. and I hope so too. and all my points are based a precondition: what if they have no good sex life? and that's VERY possible! I mean, for a man who even can't take care of himself.

Remember your previous point: masturbating would be ok for the woman! of course, under such a possiblity: they didn't have sex life. However, when I read your viewpoint, I just couldn't help thinking that you'er a cold-hearted person.

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Yeah, for you or for me, and maybe for most people, sexless life are bitter and unendurable, but there must be exception. If the couple did have sexless life for 31 years, I felt very sorry.


glad to know that.

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By the way, I can't see the clear link between the satisfiable sex life and a couple with the husband being disable


the link is that a disable husband has the bigger possibility to get a satisfiable sex life with his wife. and sex life is very important for any couple.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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To marry someone else and meantime take care of her husband as a sister or family or something!

But I think your alternative chiose is very hard to make it work. you should ask again, why?

Before marrying with her fiancee, the woman had two chioses: telling the man she would marry the truth that she needed helping her ex-husband due to his disablament, or lying that she had a disable brother who needed her help?

which one she would choose?
If she took the chiose of telling the truth, would her fiancee agree with her to help her ex-husband? and what would her fiancee think of her? Of cause, if her fiancee was very kind and open minded, that was Okey, if not, there would be many problems incured. and other way, what would the ex-husband think of? and there were another problem we might ignore, the woman was pregnant when her husband was hurted. What would the new family consist of. So I think quite complicated problems would be brought if the woman left her ex-husband and marred another one just as what you said.

Of cause,I am not a woman, I don't exaclty know a woman's feeling and I of cause don't know why she did not leave her husband and took another alternative chiose as you said. But I think she did have her reason for all she had done. Maybe she had clearer thought than you and me about her life.

Anyway, I really think she is a great woman.
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