Site Search:
 
Dave's ESL Cafe's Student Discussion Forums Forum Index Dave's ESL Cafe's Student Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Students and Teachers from Around the World!"
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

potatoes, tomatoes, pianos, kilos?

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Dave's ESL Cafe's Student Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Help Center
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
worksmart



Joined: 11 May 2006
Posts: 88

PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 4:18 am    Post subject: potatoes, tomatoes, pianos, kilos? Reply with quote

For the plural form, why es for potatoES and tomatoES, and piano and kilos are not pianoes, and kiloes? Don't these words all end with a "O"?

Thanks!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ClarissaMach



Joined: 18 May 2006
Posts: 644
Location: Rio de Janeiro, Brazil

PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem is that there is not a single rule for plural in English, Worksmart.

See the words 'man', 'woman' and 'child', which plural forms are 'men', 'women' and 'children', respectively.

(Here in Brazil students commit a lot of mistakes like "womans", "mans", "childs").



Clarissa Alves Machado.


Last edited by ClarissaMach on Mon Jun 05, 2006 1:03 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ClarissaMach



Joined: 18 May 2006
Posts: 644
Location: Rio de Janeiro, Brazil

PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 5:23 am    Post subject: By the way, Reply with quote

Isn't it funny:

Man - Men = you change the written word, but the way you say it is the same;

Woman - Women = you change a letter at the second syllable, but the way you say it changes in the first syllable;

Child - children = idem.



Clarissa Alves Machado.


Last edited by ClarissaMach on Mon Jun 05, 2006 1:03 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
LucentShade



Joined: 30 Dec 2003
Posts: 542
Location: Nebraska, USA

PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately, there's no good way to tell if a word ending in -o should get -s or -es, aside from plain memorization. You can find a list of irregular plurals, including the -o list at this site:
http://www2.gsu.edu/~wwwesl/egw/crump.htm
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
angelwing



Joined: 13 May 2006
Posts: 115
Location: Philadelphia, PA

PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's the problem with the English language. It's just confusing.

Norm
_________________
"They play in the devil's key
An endless symphony
I even hear it now
And I listen to the music
Beautiful music
Yes I listen to the music
Beautiful music"
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website AIM Address
ClarissaMach



Joined: 18 May 2006
Posts: 644
Location: Rio de Janeiro, Brazil

PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LucentShade wrote:
Unfortunately, there's no good way to tell if a word ending in -o should get -s or -es, aside from plain memorization.


Well, isn't it what learning another language is all about? Practice, practice and practice, memorization, memorization and memorization? :wink:


Clarissa Alves Machado.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
worksmart



Joined: 11 May 2006
Posts: 88

PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess so...
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Dave's ESL Cafe's Student Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Help Center All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Dave's ESL Cafe is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling.
Banner Advertising | Bookstore / Alta Books | FAQs | Articles | Interview with Dave
Copyright © 2018 Dave's ESL Cafe | All Rights Reserved | Contact Dave's ESL Cafe | Site Map

Teachers College, Columbia University: Train to Teach English Here or Abroad
SIT
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group