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Chan-Seung Lee



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 4:35 am    Post subject: I wonder Reply with quote

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ex1)A: Have you finished reading this paper? B: Yes, I already have.
ex2)People from different cultures sometimes don't understand why Americans give so many compliments.


I wonder why in the example1 'already have' is used instead of 'have already' and in the example2 'sometimes don't' is used instead of 'don't sometimes'.
Are the examples above correct? If so, can you explain it grammatically?

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KazAV



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adverbs of frequency (such as these) usually sound better taking place between the subject and the verb.
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Chan-Seung Lee



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 8:14 am    Post subject: I still wonder. Reply with quote

How about 'I have already done it.' in comparison with 'example1'?How about 'I can sometimes eat a raw fish.' in comparison with 'example2'?


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In those cases, the adverb comes after the modal or auxiliary verb and before the main verb. It sounds more natural the ways I have told you.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:26 pm    Post subject: ONE MORE TIME Reply with quote

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ex1)I love you. And I always will.
ex2)I love you. And I will always.


In the above, which one is correct?

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LucentShade



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:35 pm    Post subject: Re: ONE MORE TIME Reply with quote

Chan-Seung Lee wrote:
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ex1)I love you. And I always will.
ex2)I love you. And I will always.


In the above, which one is correct?

Thanks.


Ex1 is more natural and you're more likely to hear it in conversations, TV shows, or movies. Ex2 is grammatically fine, but less common.

Going back to the first post, I believe it's more common to use the order of [adverb] [verb or modal] at the end of a sentence. It would be natural to say, "I have already finished reading the newspaper," since there is more in the sentence after "already."
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